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M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 24 18:04:45 2019

Just passed us after stopping briefly on the express track heading for Jamaica while our M-3 was stopped at Forest Hills. Side display on one car read "Car 9 of 14." Looked like some interesting stuff going on inside but it didn't linger long enough for me to garner any details.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 24 19:11:22 2019, in response to M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 24 18:04:45 2019.

It stopped outside of Jamaica, so as we crawled past I was able to see what looked like the expected dead weights to simulate passengers, many of the seats covered in white or full of stuff, and lots of exposed wiring (no doubt for testing instrumentation). Most of the interesting stuff was toward the front, just as real passengers tend to bunch up front leaving Penn Station.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 25 14:13:48 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 24 19:11:22 2019.

They are obviously having trouble with them. Too bad LIRR ran their M-3 fleet into the ground while we wait.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jun 25 16:03:37 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 25 14:13:48 2019.

Yeah, this rollout is getting to be as bad as anything Bombardier...

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 25 17:10:07 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jun 25 16:03:37 2019.

Maybe, just Maybe MTA should scrub most of the bells and whistles in trade for actual reliability.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jun 25 18:43:13 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 25 17:10:07 2019.

Bells and whistles like what? The M7 have a lot of bells and whistles and their pretty good MDBF wise, M7's ride like crap but good MDBF though.




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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 25 18:52:00 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 24 19:11:22 2019.

"... dead weights to simulate passengers,"

I remember in the mid 80s Metro North filling the seats of newly delivered Bomb Shoreliners with sandbags to simulate a full passenger load. Must be SOP with testing new passenger equiptment


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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Jun 26 09:54:04 2019, in response to M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 24 18:04:45 2019.

"CAR 9 OF 14" IS "7 OF 9`S" SISTER FROM STAR TREK VOYAGER.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 26 10:15:45 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Jun 26 09:54:04 2019.

LOL!!

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 14:23:58 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jun 25 16:03:37 2019.

Why are the problems with these cars as secret as the POTUS's nuclear code ?

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 26 14:38:35 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 14:23:58 2019.

not owned by LIRR yet and why would Kawasaki give up code or what problems are ? its their cars .


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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Jun 26 14:44:04 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 14:23:58 2019.

The M9 issues is probably a lot of techno babble the general public wouldn't understand I assume. I read somewhere they have "software issues" but nothing more specific than that.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 26 14:48:36 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Jun 26 14:44:04 2019.

I believe issues is with doors , so it would be a sub-vendor responsible, but no matter what, if a fault occurs during the required mileage, the counter goes back to zero and all start again. no exceptions.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 14:54:18 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 26 14:48:36 2019.

How does that work ? If an individual car has a door motor problem, do all 14 cars get their clock turned back to zero ?

The huge, heavy doors have got be an issue. The C-3 doors always had problems.

The R32's as delivered had a lighter-weight fabricated door, the interior was made of some sort of honey-combed fiberglass material, or at least that was what someone once said here.

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 26 15:02:09 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 14:54:18 2019.

if any of test cars fail , the consist fails


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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jun 26 18:49:43 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Jun 26 09:54:04 2019.

I was actually thinking much the same thing, but I figured the LIRR has no such thing as a 9-car train. Maybe a set of three Triplexes?

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 27 07:57:43 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jun 26 18:49:43 2019.

I was also thinking that I,d like to get "7 of 9" on the "hollo deck" and have my evil,evil, ooh so evil way with her!!!

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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 27 11:55:39 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Jun 27 07:57:43 2019.

I can hear your stomach growling. lol


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Re: M-9 set spotted yet again

Posted by numbersix on Thu Jun 27 12:36:22 2019, in response to Re: M-9 set spotted yet again, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 26 14:23:58 2019.

POTUS nuclear code is "stormy".

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