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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:41:03 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 07:53:40 2019. The MTA taxes are a county-level matter, not town. Shelter Island has never had MTA service and still pays the MTA taxes. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 08:41:58 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 9 12:27:56 2019. in triple-figure debt like my cousinHuh? He made a $100 purchase on a credit card? Did you mean 6 figure? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 08:57:00 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 08:41:58 2019. No, no. My PhD cousin is 60 and has triple figure debt, like $500K, including a mortgage partially owned by her parents in their 80's, including about $40K in home expansions she never got permits for, and now has back taxes and fines. Her 2 young adult daughters are also clueless with money. Don't confuse high IQ with any common sense. That's Williston Park, and they are not unusual to behave that way in that neck of the woods. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 08:58:38 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:41:03 2019. The 2 eastern township were threatening to pull out. That's why the LIRR had to get off their asses. Shelter Island is connected via North Ferry to Greenport station. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 09:10:31 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 08:57:00 2019. OK.500K is generally referred to as "six figures." |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 09:11:16 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 09:10:31 2019. OK, whatever. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 09:11:46 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 07:04:32 2019. Steam trains with a lot less horsepower managed to do just that the early 1900s before the tunnel was electrified, so why wouldn't a modern day dual-mode locomotive be able to do the same thing? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 09:17:00 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 09:11:46 2019. Parts of the Atlantic Terminal area have speed limits of 5 and 10MPH given 85' rail cars. It's really designed to be like an IRT termninal. Steam engines didn't have to deal with that, and they hauled 50' long wooden coaches. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:21:16 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 09:10:31 2019. Regardless of Joe V’s terminology, it was obvious from the context what he meant. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:22:20 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 09:11:46 2019. Did they ever run steam into the underground Atlantic? It was electrified contemporaneously with the construction of the tunnel. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 09:24:13 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:21:16 2019. That's why I asked if he meant six figures. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 09:25:58 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:22:20 2019. I think the terminal was built and run open-air in 1903, then covered for 3rd rail on or about 1905 with the MP41's. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 09:53:42 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 07:53:40 2019. I agree that the service is useless, but there's not enough equipment to provide more service along that line, the sidings along the line are all in pretty bad shape, the stations are positioned poorly in relation to where the sidings are, and you would only be able to store about 3 trains east of Ronkonkoma on any given night. I also don't think that there's enough demand for NYC Commuter Service east of Riverhead, from what I've been told that Southampton-Penn Station morning rush train still isn't carrying too well east of Speonk.Move Yaphank a little bit east of the Georgia Pacific lead and somehow make it service both tracks, fix up the Calverton siding, and somehow rebuild Riverhead so that it serves both tracks, and you can at least provide hourly service to Riverhead in an ideal world. They restored weekend service and added 2 more trips because they risked losing MTA taxes in Riverhead and Southold townships. Nothing more, and it took their stupid service planners since 1986 (when they killed their bus service) to to do that. They threatened to do that back in 2012 and it went nowhere, the service increases were implemented in 2017, doesn't seem like a back against the wall Hail Mary to me, but truth be told I have no reason to doubt that knowing how that part of Suffolk County can be. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 10 10:00:34 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:22:20 2019. No.Steam was banned from Brooklyn streets ENY to Atlantic Terminal. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 10:02:09 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 09:53:42 2019. There are those MARC coaches, which are of no interest to Mr Eng. They could have bought a couple of Amtrak or NJT P40's, but MN and Conn DOT got them. The ends justify the means (do nothing in order to do nothing).All they need is another 2 car set and they can run back and forth to Yaphank every hour or two, maybe even Riverhead once in a while, and honor Zone 14 tickets on the S92 to Greenport. But LIRR doesn't even know Suffolk Transit exists. The South Shore needs a station somewhere in the Moriches. The Southampton train has been pretty much a waste, except for perhaps Monday mornings. It should be cut back to Westhampton. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 10:04:54 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:22:20 2019. Steam service was discontinued in December 1905 while the line was electrified and depressed in July 1905 so it was only a matter of months, but it still ran. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 10:06:28 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 10 10:00:34 2019. Only briefly. By 1905 steam had been running to Flatbush for a long time. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 10:08:33 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 10:06:28 2019. Didn't the NY & Man. Bch railway trains come in there too ? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 10:10:22 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 10:08:33 2019. No. Not even when it ran on the surface.BF&CI (Brighton) trains did, briefly. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 10:16:58 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 09:17:00 2019. I really wish I knew the amount of HP those engines had. |
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Posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 10:52:47 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 08:04:28 2019. This stopped because they gapped too many 4-car consists lol. Mostly in Valley. If your rear pair isn't drawing properly going east up to the branch, you're done. We can debate on whether this shows a general lack of balls on the part of the railroad, but these days they don't want to tell you to roll backwards until you're on 3rd rail with passengers aboard. I would want no part of operating dual modes of any kind into Brook unless all the passenger cars had shoes too. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 10:53:13 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 10:02:09 2019. There are those MARC coaches, which are of no interest to Mr Eng.MARC has no plans of getting rid of them AFAIK, and the cab cars aren't compatible with the DE30AC/DM30AC as built. They could have bought a couple of Amtrak or NJT P40's, but MN and Conn DOT got them. The ends justify the means (do nothing in order to do nothing). Can't argue with that, there could still be a chance to buy them from CDOT if they haven't been shipped out for rebuilding already. CDOT is going to have plenty of diesel equipment to spare soon when SLE goes all M8. All they need is another 2 car set and they can run back and forth to Yaphank every hour or two, maybe even Riverhead once in a while, and honor Zone 14 tickets on the S92 to Greenport. But LIRR doesn't even know Suffolk Transit exists. No one wants to take the train to Yaphank in its current incarnation, I would move the station east by the Laboratory first before even entertaining that idea. Riverhead would be much more useful for North Fork commuters, but the Georgia Pacifc siding in Yaphank needs to be fixed up to allow that to happen at the very least. Suffolk Transit and the LIRR have really poor service coordination to say the least, if you're commuting anywhere but Hauppauge or along Route 110 forget about relying on both to get you where you want to go, both agencies serve completely different demographics and both agencies make sure you know that with their scheduling. In spite of the LIRR though, the S92 does really well for itself and carries much more people out there (same with the N6 and Hempstead Branch), I can see that route eventually getting 24/7 service, and the LIRR should use it as a guideline for that area's ridership potential. At East Hampton in the morning the S92 piles in consistently full of passengers while that useless new "Hampton Connection" or whatever LIRR shuttle lets out a tumbleweed. The South Shore needs a station somewhere in the Moriches. The Southampton train has been pretty much a waste, except for perhaps Monday mornings. It should be cut back to Westhampton. Put up 2 Bellport-length side platforms east of Railroad Avenue and Center Moriches will be reopened for only $2 Million or so. That town really didn't want to lose their railroad service apparently. |
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Posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 10:58:54 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 09:11:46 2019. See, that's why I have a hard time taking this topic seriously. A steam locomotive will maintain power as long as it can make steam. You know that, right? Therefore if ventilation wasn't an issue, a G-5 would be a far better choice than a dual mode for Brooklyn. |
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Posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 11:05:02 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 08:04:28 2019. Also the M7 and DM30 equipment applies brakes automatically across 3rd rail gaps, which has to be the least desirable feature ever. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:05:32 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 10:52:47 2019. I (and my mother) commuted daily on the WH branch from 1979 to 1992. we never gapped at Valley Stream, Jamaica, or Brooklyn. A lot other delays back then, but that wasn't one of them. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 11:14:35 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 09:17:00 2019. Just saw a head end video of the Brook 1 Interlocking and this is turning out to be a non-issue. The gaps are relatively small compared to the ones at A, C, and Jo Interlockings, and when you factor in the HP of a Charger and the fact that it was built to pull over 10 double-decker passenger cars, such small gaps wouldn't be an obstacle at all leaving Atlantic Terminal. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:15:48 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 10:53:13 2019. The MARC cab cars have Amtrak's ASCES and MARC told them not to touch anything in the cab. They work fine topped and tailed with the DE/DM. They should be assembled as a long Port Jeff or Speonk consist, like the 5:47 from Hunterspoint. MARC has 20 available for lease. They snatched back 10 from NJT last year because they thought LIRR was going to lease them. I heard that in the flesh from the NJ DOT Commish herself when I asked her. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:18:23 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 11:05:02 2019. Unlike the M1 and M3, I don't feel M-7's jerk when going over switches every 2 cars, like they day when passing the old Harold Tower eastbound. In the first car, I could count how many cars were in the consist. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:19:41 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 11:14:35 2019. Get a penalty application at 5 MPH on gap, that is it. |
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Posted by Njcl2308 on Mon Jun 10 11:53:42 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jun 8 06:13:09 2019. Or you can just have people wait for the next train a few minutes later... |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 10 12:03:23 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jun 9 11:08:45 2019. "It's a shame too since the LIRR just rehabilitated that El a couple of years ago without even thinking about eliminating this operational obstacle."They might have rebuilt it the way they did anticipating the NYCTA taking over the line someday, thus any upgrading raising weight or height limits would be unnecessary. |
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Posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 12:20:05 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 09:17:00 2019. Joe, it's all 5 mph now. When you clear Brook 1, track speed is 45. Horsepower is irrelevant, as you said, when you get a power knockout and brake application at very low speed. I know of what I speak!!! Lol!!! I almost gapped the 4:49 to Port Jeff a few weeks ago. Thought I was going to knock out the whole PM rush. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 10 12:29:38 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:15:48 2019. Call me cynical but here's my opinion: The LIRR never had any intention of leasing the MARC cars & not an oversight. It was a deliberate attempt to screw with the Port Jeff & Oyster Bay clintele by snatching equiptment from those lines. The LIRR/MTA suits have an ongoing wish to get Port Jeff. line folks to drive to Ronkonkoma & Oyster Bay folks to drive to either Pt Washington or Mineola to catch electric trains to NYC. When a certain amount of commuters do just that, the suits will now say AHA! ridership is down so 3d rail is out of the question.Its a tried & true method used by RR operators everywhere for generations, make the service suck, ridership tanks & now they have an excuse to either cancel improvements or do away with the service altogether. |
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Posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 12:33:04 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:18:23 2019. Maybe the ones and the mixed consists were rough. A solid set of threes sails right over the gaps provided you have a bit of momentum going. They're the real diamonds in the rough of this operation. Too bad they're a prematurely aging orphan fleet... |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 12:34:38 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 12:20:05 2019. Did the 10 & 15 MPH get cut to 5 because of the bumper block wreck ?Are there ASC and PTC speed codes to enforce 5 MPH ? Fur will fly, but when they get sufficient M-9's, restore the 4:51 from Hunterpoint Avenue and forget this dual mode shit. There's plenty of room for them on the Far Rockaway connection. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 12:41:15 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 10 12:29:38 2019. Sure they did. It was to be a 3 summer deal to IMPROVE service. That was the contract. MARC took back the cars they leased to NJT in June 2018 thinking LIRR would take them.The 2nd and 3rd summers were for more than the 8 MARC cars they got. The whole point was not to cut rush hour consists and cancel rush hour trains to Port Jeff and Oyster Bay on Friday nights. Eng is a playing a game of PR frou-frou of 3rd track and ESA bullcrap and srews regular cutsomers to run a seasnoanl service. We saw that last weeekend when they fucked the Hempstead Branch for Belmont Stakes. 3 weeks ago, the Cannonball's equipment died. They stole the 4:49pm to Port Jeff and cancelled it. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 12:41:48 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Njcl2308 on Mon Jun 10 11:53:42 2019. Now that I think about it you're right, there's few better stations on the LIRR than Jamaica to wait a measly extra 30 minutes for the next train to Brooklyn. |
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Posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 12:44:41 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 12:34:38 2019. No, it was already 5. Maybe due to the prior bumping block incident which predates my time there. There's no ASC enforcement below 15. PTC will not be in effect in Atlantic Terminal, and is not yet "turned on" anywhere on the branch. When I was a trainee, one engineer told me it was "OK to hit 7"... any more than that, I'd rather gap than derail. If I gap, I'll be back at work the next day.With Eng being a Port Jefferson rider, I don't see him cutting dual modes on his home branch. The next guy might agree with you. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 12:46:28 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:19:41 2019. Sounds like an easily fixable engineering flaw. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 12:50:16 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 11:15:48 2019. If they didn't have to be double-ended they would be perfect for the lighter runs like the Patchogue-Babylon and Greenport-Ronkonkoma shuttles since they carry less people than the C3. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 13:00:14 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 12:46:28 2019. Wanna raise the speed limit above 5 MPH ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 13:01:47 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 10 12:50:16 2019. They would do fine on existing, long double-ended, Hunterspoint trains. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 11 09:05:47 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 06:40:13 2019. Not only that, in some cases they used heavily insulated jumpers to connect the 3d rail to the DD1 contact shoe in cases where the siding was close to a grade crossing with its accompanying gap. The conductor who did the hooking up & disconnecting must have had balls of steel (or a couple belts of jungle juice) to do this, especially in the rain.Things were done very differently back in the days before OSHA. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 11 13:05:38 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 10 10:02:09 2019. Doesn't Amtrak have any spare P42s? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 11 13:13:49 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 11 13:05:38 2019. Amtrak? spares? surely you jest. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 11 15:01:08 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 11 13:05:38 2019. Probably, but they are breaking down left and right, and are very high mileage |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Jun 11 15:19:38 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 11 15:01:08 2019. When the Chargers entered Midwest service, you got a few back. They've been run hard for a long time and are approaching the end of the line. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Tue Jun 11 16:53:46 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by sloth on Mon Jun 10 10:52:47 2019. I remember one morning a 4 car train gapped out on Valley Interlocking and there was a lot of trouble coupling another train to it to pull or push it out of the way. After that I can't remember seeing any 4 car consists even on West Hempstead runs. I also got stuck on one 6 car Far Rockaway train leaving Brooklyn. We gapped out and somehow eventually got back into Atlantic Terminal after tying up all the service for at least half an hour. Talk about taking a train to nowhere! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 11 19:06:09 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by murray1575 on Tue Jun 11 16:53:46 2019. Neither LIRR nor MNRR does 4 car EMUs anymore. Shortest MNRR EMU is 5 cars (New Canaan branch). MNRR has many 6 car consists across all 3 lines. LIRR I see 6 cars for WH, Hempstead, and Far Rock branches. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jun 12 03:21:27 2019, in response to Re: Amtrak orders 75 new Siemens Charger locomotives for LD trains, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jun 11 15:19:38 2019.  PHFFFT |
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