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[VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 16 06:20:59 2019 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu May 16 07:28:03 2019, in response to [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 16 06:20:59 2019. Boy, is he mad! Good for him! Stop screwing with us!!!!! |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 16 12:31:13 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu May 16 07:28:03 2019. Although Samuelson is angry, with the current NYCTA head being from London, it’s likely he will try to impose some of the procedures in use there on the NYCTS. One of the things i see possibly happening is the return of the split or “swing” runs on lines that have heavy rush hour service vs midday service like the Flushing Line. I suspect that even if the union took it to arbitration, it would lose since such runs ore not only industry standard, but exist on NYCT buses as well. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu May 16 13:01:55 2019, in response to [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 16 06:20:59 2019. He is absolutely right. If a manager allows subordinates to make more than they do, they are not needed. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 16 13:11:27 2019, in response to [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 16 06:20:59 2019. Can't people speak coherently? I understand what he's saying but enough already with the run-on sentences. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu May 16 13:12:25 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Thu May 16 12:31:13 2019. Swing runs are very prevalent in Philadelphia, in both the City and Suburban routes. It is much better , IMHO, to pick a straght run, and not have that mid-day swing of 3-4 hours. However , I have one driver that I know, that likes his swing, he lives within a 15 minute drive to the district. So on his swing he goes home, eats, relaxes, etc.Septa suburban division makes you know about 22 bus routes, they interline like mad for maximum efficency. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 16 14:16:00 2019, in response to [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 16 06:20:59 2019. The easy solution is to not pay for overtime. Damn socialists! :-)Seriously, it's good he told off the execs. That shows why unions are needed. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu May 16 18:14:22 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu May 16 13:01:55 2019. When Walter Cronkite was doing the space shot wall to wall coverage, his paycheck was larger than William Paley's (owner of CBS). Source a woman who was temping in their payroll dept in the late 60s. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu May 16 18:43:06 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu May 16 18:14:22 2019. But I thought a news anchor would be paid a salary, just like the owner of CBS, no matter how many hours worked.As opposed to an hourly worker making time and a half for work over 40 hours. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu May 16 19:17:19 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu May 16 18:43:06 2019. I believe that although they had salaries higher than "beat reporters" they were in fact union employees. In any event, JoAnn, who lived one apartment down the hall, was teping for CBS in that era and remarked on Mr C as having the largest single weekly check after one of the all nighter space shots. |
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Posted by Pragmatist on Thu May 16 19:29:33 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu May 16 19:17:19 2019. Regardless of salary, most leading TV and film performers are represented. SAG/AFTRA |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri May 17 04:36:58 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 16 13:11:27 2019. Oh please like it was a prepared statement, you know it was off the cuff and he let his emotions take it away.Nothing burger and I love the armed cops chain gang for that is what the Board did. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:34:41 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu May 16 13:12:25 2019. I believe that some of the NYCT bus routes also interline. We tried that in rapid transit scheduling but it didn’t work too well and was eventually dropped. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:38:10 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Pragmatist on Thu May 16 19:29:33 2019. It’s interesting that many positions that are per se managerial are represented by unions despite the fact that under Landrum-Griffin and Taft-Hartley which preceded it specifically prohibited managers from being unionized or at least in the same union as their subordinates. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:52:42 2019, in response to [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 16 06:20:59 2019. The news media should investigate a little more thoroughly before making broad accusations regarding overtime. Much of the overtime especially on runs that last for as much as 10 hours is due to the unwillingness of the MTA management to hire more employees. I once generated two work programs one of which had one more run that the other but paid fewer work hours. I was instructed do go with the one with fewer runs because even though the allowed time was greater, it was perceived that the TA would save money by having to pay the fringe benefits to one less crew. Also, the way the TA shows OT pay is in allowed hours rather than actual hours worked and since OT is paid at time and a half, it may appear to the uninitiated (and that includes our so called Governor) that the employees are working more hours than they actually do. Jobs that work 10 hrs per day (Actually 9:59) pay 11 hrs so while the employee who has such a run is allowd 55 hours he/she in actuality is working only 50 so the employees are not working the impossible hours that the media and the politicians are claiming. |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 17:57:54 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:52:42 2019. Our the fringe that much greater? |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 17:58:08 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 17:57:54 2019. Are* |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 17:59:09 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:34:41 2019. Could you share about those instances, when and what lines? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 17 18:14:44 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu May 16 13:01:55 2019. Sheeiiiiiiiiittt!!! We all made a lot more than our supervisors who could not make overtime |
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Posted by The silence on Fri May 17 23:27:32 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:52:42 2019. Then explain how this guy walked away with three times his base salary in overtime....And why the feds have stepped in... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nyc-subway-mta-overtime-pay-workers-fare-cost-empire-center-a8919136.html |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat May 18 07:48:14 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by The silence on Fri May 17 23:27:32 2019. Politics. |
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Posted by The silence on Sat May 18 09:56:43 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat May 18 07:48:14 2019. Let me guess, it’s the same “politics” that had the MTA paying 200 people $1000 a day to do nothing at East Side Access..?https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-construction-costs.html |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 11:30:01 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:38:10 2019. In NYS they're pretty blatant about it: a quick search of NYS job titles shows at least 59 titles with the word "Manager" in them as union represented titles. Some of them are blatant textbook people management positions like "Call Center Manager" and "Logistics Manager" while some are more paper management like "Eligibility Program Manager" or "Publications Manager". |
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Posted by randyo on Sat May 18 12:16:20 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by The silence on Fri May 17 23:27:32 2019. A T/D I know retired a few years ago with a good chunk of OT because due to the Manny B shutdown, his PM job at Bay Pky worked 9 hours instead of the normal 8. Starting with the midnight shift on Sat a T/D was required at Pacific St so he deadheaded there to pick up that job and per TA rules he was paid continuous time plus at the end of the shift, deadhead time back to Bay Pky. All that taken into consideration, it’s not difficult to see how an employee could rack up what to an outsider might seem like an excessive amount of OT. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:31:24 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 17:59:09 2019. B and N weekends.R and G (or was it GG). If one line had problems it was a big headache for dispatchers to find crews. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:33:27 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 15:38:10 2019. IDK how it was during your day, but todays NYCT managers are represented by the "Subway Surface Supervisors Assn. Technically, they are not a union. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:36:03 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by The silence on Sat May 18 09:56:43 2019. Are these actual MTA employees or employees of the private contractor? |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun May 19 14:19:28 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:31:24 2019. Thanks! |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 19 21:30:16 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:31:24 2019. The B and N was weekend only, but the RR/GG program was interesting. There was a PM RR crew that reported at City Hall and remained on a “manned gap” train through the rush hour to be used on any Bway line in either direction in the event of a delay. After the rush if the train were not used, the crew would operate the train light to Ctl and if there was enough time, lay it up to J Yd and deadhead to Qns Plaza and make a trip on the GG. If the train ended up having to be used in a service going the Stl, it might be tight to get back to Ctl in time for the next trip even if the crew were able to take the train back to Ctl. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 19 21:33:35 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:33:27 2019. AFASIK, actual managers are not represented by the SSSA only supervisors like T/Ds and T/S/Ss are. Managers are “represented” by the Transit Managerial Benevolent Assn (TMBA). When I last looked, SSSA unlike the TMBA, is a union. |
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Posted by The silence on Sun May 19 21:56:45 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 19 13:36:03 2019. Ether way the cash was flowing out of the MTA’s coffers for people to stand around and do jack didally squat without a defined role. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon May 20 05:01:34 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by randyo on Thu May 16 12:31:13 2019. The contract is iron clad as a basic 8 hour consecutive work day and as been enforced as such for over 4 decades. TWU cant lose that as an arbitrators opinion will generally follow past practices over industry standards of those who chose to give it up for money. They must negotiate and give it up which I don't see happening. Also because buses have PAID swing time, would you as a line manager want to run the risk of the extra overtime involved in backing up the late reporting crews for second half of workday when train service is down and I cant make it in on time for my second report and you have no body to cover trips? There was a good reason why RTO gave this up and the crews in your generations helped end it |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 20 05:33:37 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by The silence on Sun May 19 21:56:45 2019. Therefore, don't blame MTA if an employee belonging to a private contractor is sitting around doing nothing/goofing off because it is up to the contracting company to initiate disciplinary action (including a write-up) against said employee, not MTA because MTA has no oversight over said employee. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 20 05:39:59 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon May 20 05:01:34 2019. Also when subways had swings, you had switchmen falling all over each other at terminals doing virtually all the put ins and lay-ups. Today road crews do most of the put ins and layups. Bring back swings? They'll need more switchmen. I don't see swings coming back along with the same crews having put ins and layups both on the Am and PM portion. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 20 16:10:12 2019, in response to Re: [VIDEO] John Samuelson At MTA Board Meeting, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 20 05:39:59 2019. New brooms sweep clean. The TWU lost on the premium pay the MTA offered the T/Os for OPTO. The MTA offered a certain amount to T/Os working OPTO runs and the union wanted more. Upon investigation it was discovered that premium offers by other properties was far less than even the MTA offered and the union go stuck with an even smaller amount than the MTA’s original offer. The original spirit of all straight runs with T/C (now called WAA) was that crews would not make the full complement of road trips but one of the road trips would be replaced by some sort of switching work. The way it has been working is that crews now make the full complement of trips in addition to the switching work and the spread on the so called straight runs approaches the spread of the old swing runs but with a shorter break period. By the way, when we had swings in the subways, there was a formula similar to the one on the buses whereby employees got paid for a portion of the swing time up to a certain amount. My platform job worked 6 1/2 hrs actual but paid 9 hours it was 7A-10A and 230P-6P with only 2 1/2 of the 4 1/2 hr break paid and that was at straight time. Back to swings vs all straights, as I mentioned the spirit of what th TWU was looking for in 1966 has now been replaced by the letter of reality and has turned out not to nbe what the union was looking for when it voted for the change. |
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