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Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by tunnelrat on Tue May 14 07:05:06 2019, in response to Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by Avid Reader on Mon May 13 10:21:18 2019.

ACTUALLY ITS KNOWN AS A RAIL BOND. IT WAS FASTENED ON USING BLACK POWDER.NOW IT IS FASTENED ON BY DRILLING A HOLE IN THE RAILS AND USING A 3 FOOT LENGTH OF CABLE FASTENED ON AT BOTH ENDS BY A NUT AND BOLT.

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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by SLRT on Tue May 14 07:07:18 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by tunnelrat on Tue May 14 06:57:27 2019.

What standing did the B&O have to sue over the connection?

Do you have any PROFF beyond your own postings?

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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by tunnelrat on Tue May 14 07:11:41 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by SLRT on Tue May 14 07:07:18 2019.

OH YEAH,I,VE SENT THE HAND DRAWN "BLUEPRINTS"OF THE CONN. TO THE ERA ALONG WITH A LETTER WRITTEN BY VINCENT SEYFRIED STATING THAT HE NOW KNOWS THAT THE TRACK CONN.WAS BUILT.IT WAS PUBLISHED MANY YEARS AGO.

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Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by Allan on Tue May 14 09:57:17 2019, in response to [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun May 12 06:18:39 2019.

Bill,

Great historical photos.

Where do you find all these (the above and others) photos?

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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue May 14 10:22:41 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by SLRT on Tue May 14 07:07:18 2019.




Do you have any PROFF beyond your own postings?


Tunnelrat is right on this one. Back in the sixties it was "given" that Belmont used his private car to visit the racetrack. Tunnelrat would know. He used to saddle his horse.


Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by SLRT on Tue May 14 10:53:35 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue May 14 10:22:41 2019.

Neigh.

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Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue May 14 10:54:16 2019, in response to Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 13 15:39:05 2019.

Who knows...? He disappeared off the radar a long time ago.....

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Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 14 11:38:22 2019, in response to Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by Allan on Tue May 14 09:57:17 2019.

Bill,

Great historical photos.

Where do you find all these (the above and others) photos?


Various sources over the years, and oh yes, ebay.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by Joe V on Tue May 14 15:11:03 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by tunnelrat on Tue May 14 06:57:27 2019.

First I heard of that. I believe you.
They should have told the B&O to go fuck themselves.
The Pennsy didn't allow them into NYPS except during one of the World Wars, even though B&O bitched and moaned.

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Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 14 15:22:17 2019, in response to Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by tunnelrat on Tue May 14 07:05:06 2019.

I did not know that is what it was called, thank you.

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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by SLRT on Tue May 14 15:29:41 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by Joe V on Tue May 14 15:11:03 2019.

The IRT wasn't a B&O property, the LIRR wasn't a B&O property, the B&O had no physical presence on Long Island. On what basis could they sue.

So I don't believe it.

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Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by K. Trout on Tue May 14 17:24:32 2019, in response to Re: [OLD PHOTOS] Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 14 02:52:27 2019.

Sure looks like it.

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Re: Sea Beach Line Question

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue May 14 21:38:20 2019, in response to Re: Sea Beach Line Question, posted by SLRT on Tue May 14 15:29:41 2019.

So I asked about this story on the B&O yahoo group. A gentleman who used to live on SI replied with some of the history. It is worth remembering that for a short while (before the Sherman and Clayton anti trust acts) PRR owned a controlling stake in B&O. This accounts for E-24 class 2-8-0s w/the PRR standard Belpaire firebox.

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