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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 23 10:38:41 2019 Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1957 – The Book of Last Runs Jersey City, New Jersey Erie Railroad Most Erie Railroad rush hour commuter trains are shifted to the Hoboken Terminal of the Lackawanna Railroad. Non-Rush hour and through (long distance) passenger trains had been operating out of Hoboken since October 13, 1956. The only trains still serving the Pavonia Avenue Terminal are those of the Northern Branch and the Susquehanna Railroad. Source: “Erie Railroad in Color” (Morning Sun Books / 1991) by Mr. David R. Sweetland Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1940 – The Book of First Runs Manhattan, New York New York City Board of Transportation IND Division The first R-9’s are placed in service. They are part of a 153 car order. Cars 1650-1701 are built by the American Car and Foundry Company. Cars 1702-1802 are built by the Pressed Street Car Company. Source: Electric Railroaders Association Bulletin /November 2015, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1950 – The Book of Last Runs The Bronx, New York New York City Board of Transportation IRT Division The IRT Westchester Avenue Branch is taken out of service. This line connected the 3rd Avenue El station at 149th Street with the West Farms Line at Jackson Avenue. Since 1946 it has only been used for non-revenue moves. Source: New York Division Bulletin / April 1987, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1956 – The Book of Last Runs Strafford, Pennsylvania Philadelphia Suburban Transportation Company Service is discontinued on the Strafford Branch of the Norristown Line. The following stations on the branch are closed: Radnor, Ithan, Wayne-St. Davids, West Wayne, Sugartown Road (original terminal) and Strafford (PRR station). Note that Radnor station on the Norristown Line is still open. Source: “Red Arrow Line in Color” (Morning Sun Books /2014) by Mr. Douglas E. Peters Tuscarora Almanac - March 23, 1968 - The Book of First Runs Queens, New York New York City Transit Authority IND Division The first train of R-40's entered service today on the "F" Line. The consist was (s) 4351-0, 4359-8, 4352-3 and 4354-5. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 1968 Tuscarora Almanac – March 23, 1981 – The Book of Last Runs Manhattan, New York New York City Transit Authority IRT Division The Lenox Avenue Line will be closed at nights and on weekend for about a year to repair the tunnel floor. No. 2 trains will run on the Lexington Avenue Line during these times and No. 3 trains will terminate at 110th Street-Lenox Avenue. Shuttle bus service will also be provided. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 1981 Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Mar 23 16:12:20 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 23 10:38:41 2019. Thanks, as always!!The 1981 repair of the Lenox couldn't have been all that good a job- they had to do major work there in 1998, running a hybrid 2/5 route- through the Lenox tunnel southbound in the AM, northbound in the PM, and via Lexington other times, with the 3 diverted to Broadway/137th. I don't recall how they served 148/Lenox Terminal at the time, or if it was closed. |
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Posted by W.B. on Sat Mar 23 18:59:19 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 23 10:38:41 2019. The R-9 order had an odd numbering due to the loss of three cars in a 1936 accident around the Fourth Avenue station in Brooklyn. I should note, however, 1702-1802 were built by Pressed Steel. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 23 20:11:39 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 23 10:38:41 2019. R9s were only around for 37 years. For such a well built workhorse of a car, that seems like an early retirement. Too bad they couldn't give them a GOH & install florescent lights & maybe get another 10 yrs or so out of them. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 23 21:29:21 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 23 20:11:39 2019. They also had dry friction journals instead of roller bearings. That's why they gave off that blue smoke - that was the journal grease. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 23 21:30:02 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by W.B. on Sat Mar 23 18:59:19 2019. Thankfully 1801 and 1802 are still with us, although 1801 will never run again. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 23 23:15:02 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 23 21:29:21 2019. I remember riding an R9 F train to 18th Ave & McDonald on the Culver & as it pulled out I'd see that blue smoke coming from the last car. Not Knowing any better, I thought it was from a handbrake applied by rowdy kids. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Mar 24 04:20:50 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 23 10:38:41 2019. Thank you for the info. and dates about the Westchester Avenue branch. I had asked others (not here) about the abandonment dates and usage, and people just weren't sure about it.Prior to 1946, it had been used in revenue service? Regularly? Was it for 3rd ave. Rush hour express trains or for non rush service as well? Details welcomed! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 24 04:42:04 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Express Rider on Sun Mar 24 04:20:50 2019. Prior to 1946, it had been used in revenue service? Regularly? Was it for 3rd ave. Rush hour express trains or for non rush service as well?Details welcomed! If recollection holds, it was used by 2nd Avenue rush hour express trains until the upper portion of the el was closed in 1940, then by 3rd Avenue rush hour express trains until 1946. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Mar 24 08:31:02 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 24 04:42:04 2019. Thank you. I had thought that 2nd ave. trains used the Bergen Ave. connection almost exclusively - but then they wouldn't stop at 149th St. So did some 2nd ave. rush hour trains go via 149th St, and other via Bergen St? |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Mar 24 19:24:29 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Express Rider on Sun Mar 24 08:31:02 2019. Thank you for the info. and dates about the Westchester Avenue branch. I had asked others (not here) about the abandonment dates and usage, and people just weren't sure about it. Prior to 1946, it had been used in revenue service? Regularly? Was it for 3rd ave. Rush hour express trains or for non rush service as well? Details welcomed! There are three elements to this story. Firstly we have the Westchester Avenue Branch. This was a two track connection between the 3rd Avenue El just north of the 149th Street station and the West Farms line west of the Jackson Avenue station. This line was in service from November 26, 1904 to March 23, 1950. (Some reports say that that the line was removed shortly after that but I believe that it lasted until at least 1952. Maybe the Elkeeper knows for sure.)(Note: I said that this line was in service from 1904 to 1950. It was used in revenue service from 1904-1917 and again by 3rd Avenue trains during the Saturday noon rush from 1940-46. It was however used throughout this time by non-revenue trains.) The Bergen Avenue Cutoff was a two track line connecting the 3rd Avenue El north of the 143rd Street station with the West Farms Line west of the Jackson Avenue station. (The Bergen Cutoff actually connected first into the aforementioned Westchester Avenue Branch first and then almost immediately into the West Farms Line. This line was in service from July 2, 1917 to November 5, 1946. It was not taken out of service until November 10, 1949 and was torn down in the summer of 1950. The upper level of the 3rd Avenue Line extended from 143rd Street to and through the 125th Street station. This line was in service from July 2, 1917 to May 12, 1955 when revenue service was discontinued south of 149th Street. However it was necessary to retain the structure as far south as the ramp between 143rd Street and 138th Street in order to reverse trains. This continued until July 1956 when a double crossover was placed in service north of 149th Street. At that time the line south of 149th Street was taken out of service. The elevated structure of the original subway was completed before the tunnel under the Harlem River. Accordingly 2nd and 3rd Avenue trains using the Westchester Avenue Branch to serve the stations between Jackson Avenue and 180th Street. This began on November 26, 1904. Subway train began using the elevated structure on July 10, 1905. 3rd Avenue service was discontinued at this time and 2nd Avenue trains were cutback to Freeman Street. 2nd Avenue-Freeman Street service may or may not have been continuous but was certainly running by October 1, 1907. 2nd Avenue-Freeman Street trains began using the center express track of the 2nd Avenue El in Manhattan January 17, 1916. Thereafter they were known as “2nd Avenue-Freeman Street Express”. The Bergen Avenue Cutoff opened on July 2, 1917 and the Freeman Street trains were routed over this connection. This remained the same until June 11, 1940 when the 2nd Avenue El was closed between 129th Street and 60th Street. The Freeman Street trains were then routed over the 3rd Avenue Line until November 5, 1946. Recall that during this period most folks worked a five and a half day workweek. So on Saturdays there was an AM rush and a noon rush as well. 2nd Avenue trains always used the Bergen Avenue Cutoff from 1917 to 1940. 3rd Avenue trains used the Bergen Avenue cutoff as well except for the Saturday noon rush trains which ran via the Westchester Avenue Branch. The 3rd Avenue Thru-Express began operating on July 2, 1917 and continued to run until May 12, 1955. This train and the 2nd Avenue-Freeman Street trains were the only ones to use the upper level tracks regularly. Considering the time and expense that went into constructing the Bergen Avenue Cutoff and the upper level tracks it’s amazing how little they were used. Although the service may have varied over the years basically the 2nd Avenue-Freeman Street Express ran for about two hours in the AM rush and one hour and forty minutes in the PM rush. Likewise the 3rd Avenue Thru-Express ran for about one hour and forty minutes during the AM rush and one hour and twenty minutes during the PM rush. If you have further question don’t hesitate to contact me. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 25 22:06:28 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Mar 24 19:24:29 2019. Larry, I believe the Westchester Ave connector was torn down in 1950, along with the Bergen Ave Cutoff. Go to NYCity maps.com, enter the intersection choice for "149 St" and "Third Ave". Go to the "Maps" in the upper right and click on the "1951 Aerial" photo of the area. It clearly shows that only a stub remained at Westchester Ave, compared to the "1924 Aerial" photo. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Mar 26 12:32:58 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 25 22:06:28 2019. That's right, except the site with the historic aerial views is http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/. Click on the + and - signs in the upper left to zoom in and out. Pan by dragging the mouse. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 26 17:20:58 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 23, posted by VictorM on Tue Mar 26 12:32:58 2019. Thank you! I'll try it next time! |
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