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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Feb 16 20:41:38 2019, in response to R212 question., posted by Chicago44 on Sat Feb 16 20:18:42 2019. That sounds unlikely. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Feb 16 20:45:30 2019, in response to R212 question., posted by Chicago44 on Sat Feb 16 20:18:42 2019. R212?The next order is the R211. I doubt numbers have been selected as of yet. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 20:53:35 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by R30A on Sat Feb 16 20:45:30 2019. They should have gone with R212 for the area code. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Feb 16 22:28:48 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 16 20:53:35 2019. Easiest area code to dial in the pre-touch tone phone days. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 17 13:02:54 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Feb 16 20:41:38 2019. Very much so,since theres no such railcar being produced.However,if he means the 211...then only the MTA knows at the moment what car numbers will be since things tend not to be consecutive. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 15:34:55 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Feb 16 22:28:48 2019. THAT is why it was assigned to NYC |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Feb 17 21:39:01 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 15:34:55 2019. Exactly! The country's largest city deserved the easiest area code to dial.:) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 22:01:07 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Feb 16 22:28:48 2019. And still the most fashionable of area codes. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Feb 17 22:03:38 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 15:34:55 2019. https://www.area-codes.com/area-code-history.asp |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Feb 18 18:27:41 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by pragmatist on Sun Feb 17 22:03:38 2019. The largest cities got the easiest area codes to dial.212 - New York 213 - Los Angeles 214 - Dallas 215 - Philadelphia 216 - Cleveland 312 - Chicago 313 - Detroit |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Feb 19 19:21:45 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by pragmatist on Sun Feb 17 22:03:38 2019. By the time we moved to New Jersey in 1967, south Jersey was 609 and north Jersey was 201. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 19 20:11:57 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Feb 19 19:21:45 2019. If you made a call between the 2 area codes, even a short distance like Montgomery to Princeton, it was a "long line" call, and handled by AT&T, not New Jersey Bell. That was the case when I moved here in 1992, fora few years, and my area code was 908, split off from 201. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Feb 19 23:13:05 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Joe V on Tue Feb 19 20:11:57 2019. That depended on where. Calls were classed as intra or inter LATA (local access and transport area) so 212 to 718 was not handled as long and was still handled by NY Tel. But life was simpler under the original NANP (north american numbering plan) as opposed to the modified NANP. 2-9, 0 or 1 in the middle, it was an NPA (area code). Now just about anything goes, programming is vastly more complex. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 01:10:42 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Feb 19 19:21:45 2019. I didn’t think that 609 started that early. |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Wed Feb 20 10:05:55 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 01:10:42 2019. "I didn’t think that 609 started that early."Area code 609 was set up in 1958. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 20 12:02:08 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 01:10:42 2019. NJ was just 201 and 609 at first. That was the first generation of area codes. Mercer County and south was 609. I guess they were considered more a suburb of Philly and of NYC then. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 20 12:53:55 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 20 12:02:08 2019. NJ was originally just 201. 609 was added early on, in the 50s or 60s. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 16:30:45 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 01:10:42 2019. Although I was using the telephone almost as soon as I could walk, I was surprised to find that they started as early as 1947 even though I never recall using any till the 1960s. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 20 18:32:25 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by pragmatist on Tue Feb 19 23:13:05 2019. We've had overlapping area codes in metro Denver for some time now. You have to dial ten digits, but it's still a local call (no need to dial 1 at the beginning). |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 20 18:34:18 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 16:30:45 2019. South Bend was 219 when we left Indiana. Area codes became widely used once people were encouraged to dial long distance calls themselves. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Feb 20 20:28:46 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 20 18:32:25 2019. The capital district of Albany just got our new area code two years ago... I still forget to dial 518 when calling local numbers, as I haven't yet even seen one of our new area code yet. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Feb 20 20:58:38 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 20 18:32:25 2019. NYC now has 212, 718, 646, 347, and 917 with 10 digit dialing.Some years back, Nassau/Suffolk split, 631 was added for Suffolk. In the original NANP, 646,347,and 631 could not have been NPAs, and a number which is an NPA could not be an exchange code... 10 digit dialing (a pain to get used to) allows that to be possible. It adds quite a bit to programming routing and permissions in telephone switching equipment, but it sure beats running out of numbers.... |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Feb 21 19:30:30 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by pragmatist on Wed Feb 20 20:58:38 2019. The day is coming where area codes will mean almost nothing with number portability. You'll get a phone number when you are born and will be able to keep it for life if you like. If you're wacky, you can have it tattooed onto you in a convenient spot so you don't forget it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:38:32 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Feb 21 19:30:30 2019. That day has essentially come. When people move, they don't change their phone numbers. I recently met an old acquaintance who now lives in Chicago and still has a 347 number.I don't expect to change my cell phone number if I move somewhere else. I've had it for 20 years. I've had it longer than my current main e-mail address. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:39:39 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by randyo on Wed Feb 20 16:30:45 2019. 1947 for internal purposes only. Actual use of area codes by the public began in 1951, and it wasn't rolled out nationwide immediately. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Feb 21 19:44:54 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:38:32 2019. In cell phone service NPA has lost much of its importance because most carriers plans include nationwide calling....They still matter in land lines.... |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 21 19:45:10 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:39:39 2019. Don't forget about Direct Distance Codes. In pre AT&T divestiture days, if you were in an area outside Ma Bell, you dialed that 3-digit code before the phone number, but after the area code to call 13 digits in all. If outside the locoal pohone company, but within the area code, it was DDD+phone number. In a college dorm, possibly another digit, like 1 or 9, to get outside of that.Charge for calls varied by time of day and where you called. It was hard to get a dial tone after 8pm, for 15 or 20 minutes. We had that in Chautauqua County NY in the 1970's. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:54:04 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 21 19:45:10 2019. I never heard of that. |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Feb 21 20:43:41 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:38:32 2019. I know someone who's lived in San Diego for over a decade, her contact phone still has a 503 (Oregon) area code. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Feb 21 21:10:09 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 21 19:45:10 2019. Because certain areas were served by none Bell operating companies, such as GTE, Rochester Telecom, Continental Telecom, and others, but still had access to the AT&T long lines network... hospital, hotel, and dorm was a separate issue regardless of carrier, often pointed to a service known as HOBIC.... |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 22 15:49:13 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 21 19:54:04 2019. Yep. I think Rochester and Jamestown NY had that situation as well, with their independent legacy phone companies.Hunterdon COunty, NJ I don't think was Ma Bell either, but I don't know what went on here before 1992. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 22 15:53:03 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by pragmatist on Thu Feb 21 21:10:09 2019. In our college dorms, we dialed 5 digits to another room, all rotary dial wall phones. System was called "Centrex".In off-campus housing, and probably most residences, your phone was rented from the phone company for about $1.25 a month, more for a phone that was not black. A lineman had to come over and install it or remove it. Extra phone cost more. Some people knew to disconnect the yellow wire (for the bell) so the phone company could not detect the extra phone in the house by the electric current draw. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 22 19:45:04 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by pragmatist on Thu Feb 21 19:44:54 2019. I was thinking the same thing. If I had gotten my first cell phone while I still lived in Marine Park I could have used it on my business cards and kept it when I moved to Bay Ridge and not have to get my cards reprinted. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 22 19:50:09 2019, in response to Re: R212 question., posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 21 19:45:10 2019. I had a rather unique problem back in 1985 when I was in DC. I was in my hotel room and tried to call my uncle who lived in Arlington Va. When I dialed the Va area code, my call wouldn’t go through and when I dialed the operator, was told that even though there were 2 separate area codes, I didn’t need to dial the Va are code from DC, just dial the 7 digit phone number. |
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