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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019 Will be in passenger service real soon..... |
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Posted by Caine515 on Sat Feb 9 11:25:49 2019, in response to R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019. :-) |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Feb 9 12:03:26 2019, in response to R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019. I read it will enter passenger service Tomorrow. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Feb 9 12:21:56 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Feb 9 12:03:26 2019. Yeah, confirmed by a text message this morning (Saturday 2/9/2019). The set numbers are #3010 to #3019, and will be placed tomorrow (Sunday 2/10/2019). Hmmm, Lefferts or Rockaways? TBD.-William A. Padron ["R-10"] |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 9 15:27:34 2019, in response to R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019. There's an R179 set running on the C right now, just left Penn Station towards Brooklyn... |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 18:47:49 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 9 15:27:34 2019. There can be up to 4 sets of R179s running on the C.... |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 18:59:11 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 18:47:49 2019. Now they have to be careful about which R179 go on the A and the C, like not confusing the M train's R160's on the Queens Blvd line storage or Jamaica Yard (whereever they store them). |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Feb 9 20:41:54 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 18:59:11 2019. I think the computer will show how many cars are on the train, hopefully minimizing confusion.Otherwise, they should start writing "5 car set" and "4 car set" in magic marker under the car number in the cabs... |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Feb 9 23:26:07 2019, in response to R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019. wow |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 11:11:37 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Feb 9 20:41:54 2019. Or put a colored strip under the car number at the cab window |
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Posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 12:58:19 2019, in response to R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 10 14:08:54 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Feb 9 12:21:56 2019. With electronic signs it can be used for either or both. |
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Posted by trains61 on Sun Feb 10 14:35:39 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 12:58:19 2019. Great ending sequence. The newest and the oldest. The guys that got on at Utica Ave looking at the FIND, priceless. Thanks for braving the cold and posting this.The Lurker's Guild |
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Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sun Feb 10 14:39:52 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Feb 9 12:21:56 2019. It ran on both the Lefferts and Far Rock branch today. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Feb 10 14:46:49 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sun Feb 10 14:39:52 2019. I am sure it did. To whit, the video...First R179 Train on the A - February 10, 2019 Meanwhile, the R-179's are slowly making their presence known on the "C" 8th Avenue-CPW Express/Fulton Local (145th-Euclid). Yesterday (Saturday 2/9/2019), I rode an eight-car set going uptown from West 4th to 42nd-PABT inside car #3184 [not the R-10 museum car that is for sure]. Also, I had just seen today [Sunday 2/10/2019], another new eight-car set at West 4th going uptown, n/#3197-6-5-4=3-2-1-0/n with #3192 [!!!] and #3194 [!!!!]. Well, life goes on, and so it goes... -William A. Padron ["Long Live The R-10's"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Feb 10 14:49:02 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 10 14:08:54 2019. Exactly! The train was said to be on both branches today.-William A. Padron ["(A)"] |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Feb 10 15:12:39 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 12:58:19 2019. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this video.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 17:46:10 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sun Feb 10 14:39:52 2019. Better it than an R32, which would have to flip the south signs. |
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Posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 22:00:08 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 12:58:19 2019. Follow this guy's channel: ihasbeencensoredHe's pretty creative and puts a lot of thought into his videos. |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Feb 11 05:58:30 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 17:46:10 2019. I had gotten on *S*3019-3018-3017-3016-3015-3014-3013-3012-3011-3010*N* around 12:50 P.M. yesterday at Chambers Street, headed towards Far Rockaway, stayed there the whole time, then was on the Manhattan-bound run to 207th Street, then stayed on it (by which it was headed towards Lefferts Boulevard) up to 42nd Street. That was around 4:30 P.M. I was on the front cars, and the behavior among the younger railfans that was complained about on some threads relating to last holiday's Arnine runs was very much in evidence (including holding up smartphones to the speakers). I myself am a railfan, but I don't make a big deal of it; with me, it's more a case of quietly taking it in, absorbing the atmosphere and scenery, and memorizing how the pre-recorded announcements at each station sound. That plus traveling alone and not as part of a "herd." |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Feb 11 08:26:54 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by W.B. on Mon Feb 11 05:58:30 2019. IAWTP with that statement, particularly with the last two sentences you had written. I did not ride the R-179 "A" train that historic day yesterday, and I will probably in the near future (I am not in a hurry yet to ride and/or photograph it).If I do, I too just going to take in the moment, and perhaps be thinking for myself as to how it would be the same feeling, and must have been back then, when the R-10's were introduced brand new (and with the same car numbers to boot) on that very same "A" line some seventy years ago. Every thing comes in a sense as a circle in life itself. And so it goes... -William A. Padron ]"Wash.Hts.-8th Av. Exp."] |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Feb 11 08:39:09 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Feb 11 08:26:54 2019. That was the thing in seeing those JA's making spectacles of themselves: I reckon that no such behavior was in evidence when the R10's made their debut on the A line in 1948-49. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Feb 11 13:19:51 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Feb 11 08:26:54 2019. I'm confused, R-179's going on the (A) ?I thought R-211's are going to the (A) replacing the R-46's. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Feb 11 14:00:57 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Feb 11 13:19:51 2019. Yes, the R-211's are suppose to go to the "A", and possibly to the "R", replacing the R-46's, plus SIRT replacing the R-44's, and finally the R-32's for good. The R-179's are intended, at this point (subject to change), to replace all the R-42's and some of the R-32's, which may still be needed to provide additional service on any other given lines.As of now, all 222 R-32's are back stationed at 207th Street and/or Pitkin Yard. All the remaining R-160's on the "C" went back to East New York Yard to continue over on lines based from there. Since the eight-car R-179 units in "C" service is based at 207th/Pitkin at this time, it is possible that MTA NYCT wanted to get the ten-car unit out there from the yard(s) that service and stored them currently. -William A. Padron ["Inwood-207 St"] |
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Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Mon Feb 11 15:16:00 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Feb 11 13:19:51 2019. The A will use both. The A line uses somewhere around 40 trainsets, there will only like 12 sets of 179s on the A so the A line will still be majority 46 until the 211s come. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Feb 11 15:54:39 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by W.B. on Mon Feb 11 05:58:30 2019. What is interesting about railfan behavior is that when the first train of new cars is introduced on a line all the railfans wait at a strategic location to ride it. When the line is down to the last train of the older cars about to be scrapped, those same railfans now wait at the same location to ride that one. I’m guilty of that myself so it’s not a criticism, just an observation. |
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Posted by RBseabeach on Mon Feb 11 17:13:01 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by randyo on Mon Feb 11 15:54:39 2019. i can't wait for the 68 68a to be scrapped.they are like moving tin cans. the interiors have been a disgrace for 30 years now. i rode two of them w my family on the D Saturday and both were disgraces. the vandals are now scratching their names with several strokes to let it stand out. Then we rode a beautiful 42 year old 46 in great condition |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 17:32:35 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Feb 11 14:00:57 2019. I kind of think this summer there will be a swap of R32's and R160's with 207th and ENY due to AC issues. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 17:33:44 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by RBseabeach on Mon Feb 11 17:13:01 2019. It was thought in the mid-1980's that stainless interiors would be more durable to vandalism than the formica. They assumed wrong. |
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Posted by RBseabeach on Mon Feb 11 17:37:50 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 17:33:44 2019. yea its too bad because I remember when they were brand spanking new.They looked great and modern. I also remember riding a brand new R-46 on the F it was quite a site inside and out. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 11 18:49:00 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by RBseabeach on Mon Feb 11 17:37:50 2019. It was even more of a sight seeing R-44s show up for the first time on the F train at Queens Plaza with a set of R1-9s across the platform on the GG. After being used to R1-9s under Queens Blvd along with slants & R-42s, the R 44 was a shocking leap into the future with its 75 ft length, chime time door closings & shiny interiors. A similar effect on the clientele was when a set of M-1s pulled into Jamaica Sta for the first time next to a set of MP-54s. Talk about night & day! |
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Posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 18:52:13 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 17:32:35 2019. This summee dont be surprises to see R46s run in places you don't normally see em. The C & J has its New Techs coming so I doubt we'll se a swap between them.... |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 18:55:51 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 18:52:13 2019. Then what to do with R32's to get them out of tunnels ? Sending them out to the Rockaways does not seem sufficient after long hot schlep down Manhattan and across Brooklyn.I suspect they will junk the R42's by then, now that the L train situation seems settled. |
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Posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 18:58:37 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 18:52:13 2019. A handful of New Techs will be reassigned to the Queens Corridor for CBTC |
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Posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 19:00:21 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 18:55:51 2019. They've been working on the 32s up at the barn so hopefully they'll perform better this summer..... |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 19:07:42 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 19:00:21 2019. Yeh, but they have AC design flaws from the GOH. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 19:10:01 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 18:58:37 2019. There are still 13 or 14 A-A sets of R46's ?Put in cab signals and ASC and send 5 pairs to SIR. They could probably deal with them draw-barred in 2 car sets. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 11 20:10:39 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 18:55:51 2019. The problem isn't tunnels, it's tunnels + all local (minimal air flow, maximum door open time). The R32 was just fine in E service for over a decade after GOH. Putting them in 10 car trains for the A should be sufficient. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Feb 11 20:27:54 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 11 20:10:39 2019. So then tell me why, when I was working the E for 2 years right before the 63rd St. Line opened, I would take a train with 10 hot cars to Jamaica Yard (I would walk thru the train from the north end to the south end at Parsons/Archer to make sure no passengers were aboard) and by the time I got into the yard all 10 cars were nice and cool? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 20:41:30 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Feb 11 20:27:54 2019. Was there a difference between Phase I and Phase II in AC reliability ? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 11 20:58:34 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Feb 11 20:27:54 2019. Alls I know is as someone who took the E every weekday 1998-2002 it was reliably cold even on the hottest of days.The lukewarm cars were always R46. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Feb 12 00:12:10 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 11 18:58:37 2019. That’s what I suspect. The R-160s from the N and the Q will probably be sent to Qns in exchanged for the R-46s. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Feb 12 00:15:18 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 17:33:44 2019. That’s also one of the reasons that the GOH R-42s received stainless steel interiors. The problem there was that while the R-68s like the 62s had some sort of “striping” designed into the panels so they wouldn’t look drab, the panels on the R-42s were smooth making that cars resemble a greasy spoon diner. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 12 15:28:16 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 20:41:30 2019. No difference. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 12 17:08:47 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 11 20:58:34 2019. I ride the Market-Frankford Line on Septa. Depending on the time of the year, passenger load, etc., 5 times out of 10, the car did not feel comfortable to me. Sitting at 69th St. or Frankford Transportation Center with one side of doors open really kills the comfort level and the system can't make it up until several stops ,later. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Feb 12 21:39:49 2019, in response to R179 A train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sat Feb 9 10:56:00 2019. I wonder how they'll do on the n/b CPW run. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 12 22:26:22 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Feb 12 21:39:49 2019. They hauled ass, even did good on the flats, higher top speed than the SMEEs car on that stretch (49 S/B, 48 N/B) most SMEE's top out at 45 on the flats. Riding the CPW N/B express run is quite fun in a NTT, I know the SMEE's had their field shunting removed which plays a part in them being slower than an NTT. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Feb 13 07:44:19 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 12:58:19 2019. Outstanding video!! Thank You. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Feb 13 08:26:05 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by JRR4 on Sun Feb 10 12:58:19 2019. Excellent video!!! AAAA++++!!!!Thanks for posting and sharing this! -William A. Padron ["Fulton-Lefferts Blvd."] |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Wed Feb 13 09:34:21 2019, in response to Re: R179 A train, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Feb 12 22:26:22 2019. They seriously need to re-enable it, especially the 68/68A. |
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