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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Jan 15 01:59:36 2019, in response to Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jan 15 01:38:42 2019. - 125th st. and Broadway- upper level of West 8th St. maybe? - Queens Plaza upper level - upper level of Chatham Sq. (cheating? since doesn't exist now) - loop platforms at Sands St. (same) - 110th St. station 9th ave. el (same) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 15 07:30:41 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Express Rider on Tue Jan 15 01:59:36 2019. Does the F drop so much between Smith-9th and Fourth Ave. stations that the latter isn't even on the list of top 4? I would have thought Fourth Ave. (F) would be 2nd or 3rd. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 15 07:38:50 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 15 07:30:41 2019. It's not so much that the F drops as the fact that the ground rises rapidly from Smith-9th to Fourth Av. |
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Posted by andy on Tue Jan 15 08:53:44 2019, in response to Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jan 15 01:38:42 2019. 61-Woodside on the #7 rises to go over the LIRR. Great views northwest on a clear day - can see the Triboro, Hell Gate, and GW Bridges. And if you look towards Mid-Manhattan great skyline views. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Jan 15 09:04:17 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 15 07:38:50 2019. Hence Park Slope... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 09:06:37 2019, in response to Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jan 15 01:38:42 2019. IIRC, the highest above sea level is BPB on the 4. And BPB on the B/D is the underground station which is highest above sea level. |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Jan 15 09:58:44 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 09:06:37 2019. learn some thing new every day.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 15 10:55:40 2019, in response to Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jan 15 01:38:42 2019. First you must define "Highest" Wakefield in da Bronix is already 161 feet above sea level before building the station. Smith 9th Street is at sea level (well the canal *IS* at sea level) so you can only count the height of the structure.Of course the HIGHEST subway station may well be the underground station at 181st St. in Manhattan where ground level is over 250 feet in elevation. So what you really want to know is "What is the tallest subway station." ROAR |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 11:10:07 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 15 10:55:40 2019. Wakefield in da Bronix is already 161 feet above sea level before building the station.Jerome Ave and Bedford Park Blvd. is higher. Of course the HIGHEST subway station may well be the underground station at 181st St. in Manhattan where ground level is over 250 feet in elevation. No, because it's deep. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Jan 15 11:17:33 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 11:10:07 2019. Well there is a point of contention on the semantics of the OP's question.Did he mean from street level or from sea level? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 15 11:48:04 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Express Rider on Tue Jan 15 01:59:36 2019. 61St Woodside on the #7 maybe?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 15 13:43:06 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 09:06:37 2019. What is lowest below sea level? I always thought Roosevelt Island. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 13:58:07 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 15 13:43:06 2019. That what I think too (what else could it be?). I mentioned that in a different thread. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Jan 15 15:47:43 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 15 07:30:41 2019. Dyre Dan,Thanks for mentioning Fourth Ave. I did not remember it. |
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Posted by LA Scott on Tue Jan 15 16:52:55 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 15 07:30:41 2019. 4th-9th does not seem higher off the street than any typical El station.The west end is somewhat high off the ground, due the slope. The east end is on an embankment, and soon past it is underground with no real downslope. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 15 17:20:47 2019, in response to Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Tue Jan 15 01:38:42 2019. Too bad there isin't a station on the # 7 express flyover track where it crosses over the GCP. That height above the GCP & north end of Flushing Meadow Park has to be among the highest if not the highest level above ground that rapid transit tracks (other than bridge approaches) go in the City, thus be the highest station. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 15 23:50:16 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 15 11:48:04 2019. Intervale Ave. and E. Tremont Ave./West Farms Square are also higher than the typical el station, that's probably why those two have crossunders while other stations on that line don't. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 22:23:59 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Jan 15 11:17:33 2019. Yes, I should have been more specific - highest above street level and highest above sea level are different questions. I had street level in mind when I wrote the post, but I'm interested in both answers. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 22:45:27 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 09:06:37 2019. Concourse isn't surprising - I think I read somewhere that some stations along the Concourse are actually higher than the corresponding Jerome Av stations. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 23:00:10 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 15 07:30:41 2019. It does drop slightly, and then some more from 4th Ave to 7th, but it's not until south of 15th St that it becomes significant. |
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Posted by VictorM on Thu Jan 17 23:11:31 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 23:00:10 2019. Actually the tracks rise going from 4th Av to 7th Av, and continue to rise until they reach Prospect Park. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 23:22:17 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Express Rider on Tue Jan 15 01:59:36 2019. I was not very specific with my question partially because former lines are still an interesting topic.I didn't consider West 8th St, but it's a good candidate, and it's probably a close call between the three still standing today. As for the three former ones, I think 110th might take the lead, but I'm not certain. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 23:24:06 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 15 17:20:47 2019. Ooh, good one - I hadn't considered that the highest (above ground level) point might be outside of a station. I've definitely taken note of the unusual height whenever I drive the GCP. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 18 12:07:51 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by K. Trout on Thu Jan 17 22:45:27 2019. Yes, agreed.If you look eastward while riding the 4 train you can see the steep uphill toward Concourse. By the time you are at BPB, where you are highest above sea level on the 4, the hill up to Concourse isn't very steep any more, though, and the B/D tracks are lower than the 4 tracks. |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Jan 18 22:29:26 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 15 09:06:37 2019. I think the highest underground station is 168 St on the A/C, not Bedford Park Boulevard on the B/D. According to topographical maps 168 St and Broadway is 180 feet above sea level, while Bedford Park Blvd and Grand Concourse is only 140 feet above sea level. Surprisingly, there's a station in Brooklyn that may be second highest: 15th St and Prospect Park West on the F/G. The ground there is 150 feet above sea level. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 18 22:35:49 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by VictorM on Fri Jan 18 22:29:26 2019. You could very well be right. I have great difficulty trying to figure out the contour lines on topo maps in urban areas. |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Jan 18 23:04:51 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Fri Jan 18 22:35:49 2019. The best topographical map I have found is the official USGS map. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jan 19 08:27:58 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by VictorM on Fri Jan 18 23:04:51 2019. That's what I'm referring to also. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Jan 19 11:46:45 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by VictorM on Fri Jan 18 22:29:26 2019. "I think the highest underground station is 168 St on the A/C, not Bedford Park Boulevard on the B/D. According to topographical maps 168 St and Broadway is 180 feet above sea level, while Bedford Park Blvd and Grand Concourse is only 140 feet above sea level. "168th is very deep below street level, 75 feet at least, while Bedford Park Boulevard is much shallower. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sat Jan 19 11:49:41 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Jan 19 11:46:45 2019. I'm referring to the A/C station, not the #1 station. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Jan 19 11:56:16 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by VictorM on Sat Jan 19 11:49:41 2019. When the Quito Metro opens later this year I suspect one of its stations will be the highest above sea level in the world, as the city is at an elevation of over 9.000 feet. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jan 19 12:10:01 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Jan 19 11:56:16 2019. Maybe El Alto, Bolivia, will get a small subway system |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Jan 19 12:45:11 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Sat Jan 19 12:10:01 2019. El Alto actually does have a cable car urban transit system. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jan 19 14:02:45 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Jan 19 11:56:16 2019. When the Quito Metro opens later this year I suspect one of its stations will be the highest above sea level in the world, as the city is at an elevation of over 9.000 feet. 9000 feet? That must be one helluva staircase. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Jan 19 15:11:23 2019, in response to Re: Highest stations, posted by AlM on Sat Jan 19 08:27:58 2019. You can use Google Earth Pro, which is free, to find the elevation of an arbitrary point on the map.If you install and run it, be sure to check out the Layers panel on the left side of the interface. I turned on Roads (it's off by default) to aid navigation, and turned off Photos (on by default) to remove some icons that were cluttering the view. The 3D Buildings layer (on by default) is where it gets interesting. With it turned on, you get the estimated elevation of whatever object you point at with the mouse — it could a bridge, a body of water, the top of tree, the roof of a building, etc. If you turn it off, you'll just get the above-sea-level elevation at grade. A downside of this neat feature is that it seems accuracy drops a tad. In 2D mode, the largest number I saw while mousing over Bennett Park was spot-on at 265 feet.  But in 3D mode, it was only 253 feet.  I also tested it at the 86th-floor observation deck at the ESB. It's close.  Some other 3D readings: 88 feet, Smith–9th  86 feet, flyover tracks at 111th. That number decreases as you mouse away in either direction  145 feet, Bedford Park Blvd on the 4  Readings at grade in the seemingly more accurate 2D mode:
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