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Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 10:40:33 2019

With CUNY, you can get books sent from one CUNY library to your local CUNY. I picked this up, and I scanned all 291 pages, including maps, on January 11, which took five hours. I then took several hours to turn the jpgs to pdfs, and then turned them, very slowly into a few files. I then compressed them and combined them, which took a while. This document is for the NYCTA's planned extension of the Second Avenue Subway. The three options considered are having it serve Dyre Avenue and Pelham north of Hunts Point, Dyre Avenue and the Penn Central (Hell Gate Line) right-of-way, and Dyre Avenue and White Plains Road north of 180th Street. I haven't found this anywhere online. I hope this is an interesting and enlightening read. I hope this leads to an interesting discussion.

Union Tpke

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 11:07:42 2019, in response to Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 10:40:33 2019.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Allan on Fri Jan 11 11:52:29 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 11:07:42 2019.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jan 11 11:59:21 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Allan on Fri Jan 11 11:52:29 2019.

It must be me but a Microsoft sign in is needed.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 12:05:05 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jan 11 11:59:21 2019.

I got it on the Internet Archive.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Dave on Fri Jan 11 12:31:00 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 12:05:05 2019.

That works.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Allan on Fri Jan 11 12:42:30 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 12:05:05 2019.

Thanks.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 11 13:11:22 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 12:05:05 2019.

Amazing that they did this detailed a study at a point when the system was practically dying.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 11 14:14:09 2019, in response to Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 10:40:33 2019.

Amazing detail.

One think you learn is how much more rapid the rapid transit was back then. For instance, the schedule run times for the 6 express and local during am rush from Parkchester to Grand Central were :

Express - 30 min.
Local - 36 min.

Today's scheduled runs are:

Express - 36 min.
Local - 40 min.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 15:28:22 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 11 13:11:22 2019.

That was my first reaction when I saw this.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 15:28:37 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 11 14:14:09 2019.

Nice find in there.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Dan on Fri Jan 11 15:54:37 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 15:28:22 2019.

I thought all the money for this had dried up by 1977.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 11 16:05:58 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 15:28:37 2019.

Thanks.

And the 2 express from 241st St. to 42 St:

1977 time - 49 min.

Today - 58-62 min.



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[Link Changed: 2 pages were out of order] Re: Rapid Transit Extension To NE Bronx

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 16:12:57 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 12:05:05 2019.

Two pages were out of order and I add blank pages so that it can be flipped through like a book on the Internet Archive. here it is.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jan 11 17:39:57 2019, in response to Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 10:40:33 2019.

wow!! Many thanks (!!) for taking the time to download and prepare this document to make it accessible for everyone to read! Awesome job!!

This is just what it's about, posting/ sharing local transit planning and history sources, to stimulate discussion amongst a large group of interested and informed individuals (namely, all of us Subchatters)
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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Jan 11 19:14:35 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jan 11 17:39:57 2019.

there are ways to pull out the most amazing PDF files by using "document" in a search query. and random somewhat related terms don't hurt either.

look at what comes up with local elevated document transit new jersey.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Jan 11 20:34:59 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 11:07:42 2019.

Not everyone has, or wants to have, an account with Microsoft Online.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 11 21:39:57 2019, in response to Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 10:40:33 2019.

One of the things the document mentions is that there will be no express service on the Wh Pl Rd Line S/O E 180s St. I see no reason why that cant be the case since 5s can run exp as they do now and the 3 tk E 180 terminal can be operated similar to Main St/Flushing.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 11 22:36:01 2019, in response to Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 11 10:40:33 2019.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Italianstallion on Fri Jan 11 23:05:33 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 11 22:36:01 2019.

He posted a good link at 12:05:05 pm.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:48:21 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Italianstallion on Fri Jan 11 23:05:33 2019.

Not for me.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:50:32 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:48:21 2019.

My bad. I was looking at the first reply and not the subsequent one about internet archive.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:51:02 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:50:32 2019.

Spoke too soon. Page not found.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by VictorM on Sat Jan 12 07:14:08 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:51:02 2019.

I found the link he refers to here brings it up in pdf form, but it's big: 57MB.


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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 12 10:53:56 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Dan on Fri Jan 11 15:54:37 2019.

By "dried up", whose pockets did it go into?

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 12 11:06:58 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Jan 11 20:34:59 2019.

Agreed. Same for Google, or Adobe, or whoever.

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Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 13:25:38 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 12 10:53:56 2019.

LOL!

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LINK: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jan 12 16:12:24 2019, in response to Re: Rapid Transit Extension To Northeast Bronx, N.Y. New York City Transit Authority October 1977, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 12 00:51:02 2019.

Try this

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