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I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ7oTzKTJpY |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Snarf368 on Mon Nov 12 10:53:34 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. Security concerns |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 12 11:03:31 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. I've noticed something...Does CTA use a 3rd rail with NO cover on it??? |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 12 11:09:25 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 12 11:03:31 2018. I've noticed something...Does CTA use a 3rd rail with NO cover on it??? Yes. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 12 11:11:41 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 11:27:30 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 12 11:11:41 2018. Thanks for the link. I forget some browsers don't automatically recognize the string as an address and automatically link. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 12 12:08:55 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 12 11:09:25 2018. Isn't that bad when it rains or snows?? Creating arcs? I swore I saw a lot of arcing when I was there 6 years ago and it was downpouring. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 12 14:41:57 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 11:27:30 2018. It's not some browsers that cause this issue. It's Subchat. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 12 14:59:36 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 12 11:11:41 2018. Even in Chicago, trains slow down for no apparent reason. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 12 16:30:55 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 12 12:08:55 2018. I believe that CTA cars have a snow scraper that can be fitted to the truck just forward of the 3rd rail shoes that clears the ice and snow from the 3rd rail. The cars also have snowplows on the lead trucks. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 12 16:56:39 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Snarf368 on Mon Nov 12 10:53:34 2018. Same mentality as banning Dougherty's track book from the NYCT museum book stores. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Nov 12 17:42:24 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 12 16:56:39 2018. Which is ridiculous concerning they gave him the track maps in the first place. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 12 18:30:04 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 12 12:08:55 2018. They arc, but CTA cars have a gravity shoe, similar to our old el cars. Although the now-retired 2200's had a miniature Pioneer truck with NY style 3rd rail paddles. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 12 18:30:39 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 12 14:59:36 2018. "Slow zones" for crappy track. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 12 18:45:00 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 12 14:41:57 2018. On my Mac, I can copy and paste the selection into my address bar, and click "paste and go",and it opens up in a new window.I realize it's easier to do the |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 12 19:06:05 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 12 18:30:39 2018. The amazing thing for oldtimers like me is seeing how many buildings are missing from when I rode "nose to window" or in the railfan seat age 11 or so. And, of course, the missing 3rd and 4th tracks N of Chicago Ave as well as eliminated stations. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 12 19:24:37 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 12 18:45:00 2018. I realize it's easier to do the A HREF thing for everyone else when I post things here. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like METRA did |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 12 22:38:09 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. METRA also released the RR version of these: |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Nov 13 04:30:01 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. Similar film from Stockholm (starts with departing from the depot, shorter trip): |
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Posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Nov 13 08:30:34 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. Real time, my ass! Look how fast the passengers are moving when the train is standing in a station. This has been significantly sped up - at least in selected places. I guess the trip is longer than this suggests. |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Nov 13 08:39:33 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Nov 13 08:30:34 2018. Can you give an example of where this happens? I noticed the train is pulling into Jackson station near the 23-minute mark, Monroe at ~24, and Lake at ~25. Nothing looks odd about the passengers' movements on the platform at those points in the video. |
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Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 08:49:09 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Nov 13 08:39:33 2018. Many of the station dwells are on fast-forward. The whole youtube video, Dan Ryan to Howard, is an hour long and that actual red line trip is more like an hour six minutes. |
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Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 08:56:02 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. Also for the first half, the trees don't have many leaves (early spring?) but after the underground section all the trees have a lot of leaves (summer?). I'm guessing they spliced in one of the downtown transfer stations where they put up a long transfer list. |
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Posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Nov 13 09:02:39 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 08:49:09 2018. That's what I suspected. I'm fine with speeding up the station dwells, as my interest level flags when the train is stopped and no new 'scenery' is being revealed. But then they shouldn't bill this as a real time video, although I admit it's not the worst sort of misrepresentation in the world today. |
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Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 09:49:59 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 12 11:03:31 2018. Correct. IMHO the coverboard is just a tripping hazard.Although the NYC MTA Solid Oak Coverboards are real nice for sitting and relaxing on! |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Nov 13 10:10:19 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Nov 13 09:49:59 2018. Are they still installing oak coverboards or are they all (is it aluminum/metal or porcelain) on new installs? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 11:56:02 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Nov 13 08:30:34 2018. When they offer "transfers" to other lines, it would be nice if the video of the line transferred to would begin at the station where you "transferred" instead of at the beginning of the line. Maybe YouTube doesn't support that. It's still very nice to have these. I was in the Chicago area just once, in 1995, and was surprised to see the trains running in highway medians. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 13 12:07:53 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 13 11:56:02 2018. The idea of rail in highway mefians was started in NY..But never materialised.Several of our now existing roads were planned WITH AND FOR RAPID TRANSIT LINES..that were removed from the process by our anti transit mogol. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 13 12:30:59 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Nov 13 09:02:39 2018. I guess you never heard of fast-forward. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 13 21:19:54 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 13 12:07:53 2018. Chicago pioneered median 'subways' which allowed sloshing of highway funds to build the route. That said, stations in freeway medians such as BART's Rockridge in North Oakland, are distinctly unpleasant places to wait for trains. They are noisy, the cars spew exhaust. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 14 18:05:09 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 13 21:19:54 2018. They also can't have windscreens. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 14 18:08:38 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 12 18:30:04 2018. It seems that Chicago's elevated exposed 3rd rail works better in winter than NYC's. And their winters are a lot worse than ours! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 14 21:36:29 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 13 21:19:54 2018. The WMATA ones are pretty good. I wait at the Wheile Reston station and it's more pleasant than many NYC el stations. The key is the wide platform, wind protected seating areas and the large mezzanine above the platform.I've also waited at CTA's Blue line median ones and yeah, those suck. The problem there is the platform is too narrow which means the cars are that much closer. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 14 23:41:23 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 14 21:36:29 2018. BART platforms are plenty wide, but at Rockridge the highway is closer than even some parts of the Congress exopressway are to the Blue. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Nov 15 20:40:42 2018, in response to Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Nov 14 23:41:23 2018. Ah... I noticed another thing about WMATA's, they have a buffer wall between the roadways and tracks within much of the station. Out of sight-out of mind, I guess (I do know it is not a sound wall as I can hear the cars quite clearly). |
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Re: I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 16 01:54:31 2018, in response to I wish the MTA would do something like the CTA did, posted by JRR4 on Mon Nov 12 10:48:07 2018. Very interesting, thanks for sharing this! I've never been to Chicago, so this is the first real exposure I've had to the "L" system. I'm glad that this was taken a few years ago, because apparently, Wilson station has been redone, so all traces of stubs and old platforms have been removed. |
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