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Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...''

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 9 18:25:17 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 9 14:43:48 2018.

They could have the LIRR run some trains from Little Neck to LIC on the TA's budget

The outstanding citizens from Great Neck to Port Washington would drive to Little Neck to take advantage of the lower fares. They would then transfer to the subway at Hunters Point for the cheap ride. While this might reduce LIRR revenue, it would do nothing to improve transportation to LIC.

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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 9 19:00:57 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 17:02:40 2018.

The only problem with more office space in LIC is getting there from the E and F from the east. There is plenty of room for added capacity from Astoria, Manhattan, and Brooklyn, and on the M/R.



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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 9 19:13:40 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 9 18:25:17 2018.

Is all-day parking available in Littler Neck? I doubt it.

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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 19:14:15 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by AlM on Fri Nov 9 19:00:57 2018.

You still forget the 7, which is already overloaded and has the most stops in LIC of all the lines.

The F does not go to anywhere in LIC that matters.

And I mentioned the E.

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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 9 19:20:55 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 19:14:15 2018.

I don't still forget the 7 - I remembered it earlier. :)

There is a lot of building going on near Queensboro Plaza, which is quite close to the Queensbridge station.



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Posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 9 20:13:26 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 17:45:32 2018.

When ESA opens, HPA and LIC wil become even more of a backwater, peak hour operation that it already is.

LIRR is VERY Manhattan centric. Their vision of their market is as it was in the 1960's, potato fields on the North Fork, etc.

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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 22:52:14 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 9 20:13:26 2018.

In that case I hope Amazon is up and running before ESA.

Though there's not much that can be diverted. Except for the one Ronkonkoma train, the LIC/HPA service is diesel. Without new dual modes (I doubt the new order will be in in time) nothing additional can go to Penn. Their plans for streamlining Jamaica station operations make terminating trains there during rush hour even more problematic than it is now.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 9 22:52:40 2018, in response to "New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...", posted by Think twice on Wed Nov 7 20:45:22 2018.

Lol

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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Nov 10 00:58:27 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Easy on Fri Nov 9 16:29:30 2018.

What about electric skateboards?

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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 10 06:10:57 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 22:52:14 2018.

Can't they run electrics with HPA as the destination and send them back east from there?

LIC station is in the far southwest corner of LIC and not an interesting destination for most commuters to LIC (better for the ferry to Manhattan), even if more office buildings get built in LIC.



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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 07:20:26 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 9 18:25:17 2018.

No they won't.

I never said charge subway fares on these train and offer free transfers at HPA. I said is send the TA the bill for the subsidy for the extra trains. Northeast Queens is a hell of a lot more commutable and livable for LIC workers than Jamaica or Southeast QUeens. It improves transportation to LIC because capacity is added and the #7 trains are filled to capacity.

Everyone Great Neck - Port Washington cannot park at Little Neck station. It is physically impossible. As it is, some drive from points east to avoid the pokey Oyster Bay branch trains.


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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 07:22:03 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 22:52:14 2018.

There's plenty more that can go to Manhattan - like ALL the Brooklyn trains are to be diverted. Jamaica Platform F is under construction right now for the new shuttle service.

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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Nov 10 09:56:40 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 07:22:03 2018.

Certainly. But my point is, of the current HPA trains, none of that can really be diverted. So it's possible that line will be business as usual.

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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 10:34:43 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Nov 10 09:56:40 2018.

The 3 and 4 car trains I think they will just truncate at Jamaica or be made shuttles.

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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 10 11:15:33 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 07:20:26 2018.

I never said charge subway fares on these train and offer free transfers at HPA. I said is send the TA the bill for the subsidy for the extra trains.

My mistake. Unfortunately, Gresham's Law applies to more than debased currency. So long as cheaper transportation exists from Little Neck and points west, the majority of commuters will opt for the cheaper alternative.

According to Wikipedia the 6 LIRR stations between Murray Hill and Little Neck attract a total of 18K weekday riders. The Q12, Q13, Q15 and Q28 buses attract a total of 34K weekday riders. The 4 LIRR Nassau County stations attract 26K weekday riders.

The bottom line is that a more expensive luxury LIRR service won't persuade that enough Amazon employees to justify the cost of the extra service.

There are two technical problems, aside from the economic one. First, where will the trains reverse direction at Little Neck? Second, it's necessary to cross the two East River Tunnel tracks for a Port Washington Branch train to reach either Hunters Point or LIC. The latter point means that any additional service on the Port Washington Branch will reduce existing service levels to Penn Sta on the LIRR mainline, even if the trains are headed to Hunters Point.

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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 12:01:46 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 10 11:15:33 2018.

Since LIRR service to Penn Station will be reduced once ESA happens, I don't see that as much of an issue. There will be some Metro North service taking their place, but not as much as LIRR service is reduced.

LIRR trains can relay at either Bayside or Great Neck.

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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 10 13:11:49 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 12:01:46 2018.

Since LIRR service to Penn Station will be reduced once ESA happens, I don't see that as much of an issue.

I don't have a proposed track map for after ESA, so I cannot verify whether or not ESA will be a savior. It's conceivable that the ESA tracks will diverge after the PW trains have to cross the mainline tracks.

Perhaps, someone who has this information will enlighten us.

There will be some Metro North service taking their place, but not as much as LIRR service is reduced.

I did not mention that the PW Branch tracks merge with those from the Hell Gate Bridge before crossing the two LIRR mainline tracks to get to Hunters Point. It's another complication.

LIRR trains can relay at either Bayside or Great Neck.

If LIRR trains relay at Bayside, how will the proposed service get to either Douglaston or Little Neck?

If they relay at Great Neck should the train carry passengers to/from Great Neck? What's NYC's motivation to subsidize fares to/from Great Neck?

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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 14:42:45 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 10 13:11:49 2018.

Bayside would still get the majority of the Queens portion.

NYC would subsidize the train, then count Great Neck loadings, and deduct. No different than the cost sharing of the Port Jervis trains making some Jersey stops like Ridgewood. MTA's subsidy to NJT gets reduced.

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 11 10:57:50 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 10:34:43 2018.

Real Estate

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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Nov 11 13:25:54 2018, in response to "New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...", posted by Think twice on Wed Nov 7 20:45:22 2018.

Amazon hipsters ride public transit? I'd figure they'd scooter themselves over there.

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 11 14:01:05 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 11 10:57:50 2018.

Progressive Backlash

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 13 12:44:33 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 11 14:01:05 2018.

Confirmed, Split HQ in Long Island, NY, and Arlington, Virginia

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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 13 13:37:01 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 9 22:52:14 2018.

Well...wasnt the center island platform(4 and 5 track) made for that sort of reverse move, or through traffic?
Ive personally seen Jamaica non stop trains use that platform and STOP...without opening doors...sit there for 5 minutes...then continue.


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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 09:48:16 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 12:01:46 2018.

I can't see LIRR service to Penn being reduced, because Nassau and Suffolk communities will scream bloody murder. Even more so if the LIRR goes through with its plans reduce the number of trains terminating at Atlantic.

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Posted by northshore on Wed Nov 14 09:59:36 2018, in response to "New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...", posted by Think twice on Wed Nov 7 20:45:22 2018.

Amazon planners located toe HQ@ right in the East River. Ferries will provide transportation to various locations.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 14 10:21:06 2018, in response to "New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...", posted by Think twice on Wed Nov 7 20:45:22 2018.

What is the closest subway station to the future Amazon site ?

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 14 10:29:16 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 09:48:16 2018.

I can't see LIRR service to Penn being reduced, because Nassau and Suffolk communities will scream bloody murder.

Lots of people will stop going to Penn once they can go to GCT. So the trains to Penn wouldn't be full any more. Why would LIRR not cut the number of trains to Penn?



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Posted by LA Scott on Wed Nov 14 10:30:50 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 14 10:21:06 2018.

Both Court Sq and Vernon-Jackson are 0.3 - 0.5 miles away, depending on where in complex you are going.

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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 14 10:36:21 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by LA Scott on Wed Nov 14 10:30:50 2018.

The west end of 23rd/Court Square looks closest to me by quite a margin.

Then Vernon-Jackson and 21st/Van Alst.

Then HPA, Queens(boro) Plaza, and the LIC railroad station.



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Posted by LA Scott on Wed Nov 14 10:53:19 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by AlM on Wed Nov 14 10:36:21 2018.

From the corner of the complex at Vernon and 46th Ave, Google says 0.3 miles to Vernon-Jackson (Vernon-50), 0.3 miles to 21/Van Alst (Jackson-47), and 0.4 miles to Court Sq (Jackson-23-45).

From Vernon and 44th Dr, it's 0.4 miles to Vernon-Jackson (Vernon-50), 0.4 miles to 21/Van Alst (Jackson-47), and 0.4 miles to Court Sq (44th Drive in the Citibank/Amazon building).

I am kind of surprised they picked a site that distance to stations.
It's not a killer, but it's not a pleasant distance in bad weather.
I predict a steady stream of shuttles.

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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 11:56:39 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by AlM on Wed Nov 14 10:29:16 2018.

Because the trains shifted to GCT will be replaced by trains that used to go to Atlantic.

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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 12:17:17 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 13 12:44:33 2018.

Interesting. What advantages would Philly have over NYC as an Amazon HQ site?

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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 14 14:55:09 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by LA Scott on Wed Nov 14 10:53:19 2018.

Ah OK, I didn't consider that the south end of the complex is all the way down at 46th Ave. But you didn't measure any of your distances to the E/M entrance at 44th Drive and 21st Street, which is closer.

So V-J, 21st, and 23rd/44th are all less than 1500'.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 14 17:55:49 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Easy on Fri Nov 9 18:20:26 2018.

They will have to be well heeled to live in LIC. I hearing 1 bedroom apts will start at 1 Mil. once housing construction is completed.

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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 14 18:09:41 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 11:56:39 2018.

There may still be a sufficient market for Atlantic (actually officially Flatbush Av on the LIRR) for passengers wanting downtown Bkln and lower Manhattan. The ESA will be useful for those who want the east side of Midtown Manhattan who will no longer have to travel either from Flatbush or Penn.

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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 18:15:19 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by randyo on Wed Nov 14 18:09:41 2018.

I agree, but it sure looks like the LIRR wants to get rid of the red-headed stepchild, sooner rather than later.

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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 14 21:08:49 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by AlM on Wed Nov 14 14:55:09 2018.

1500' is how far I have to walk from a typical spot in my assigned parking lot to my office building. Even in today's below-freezing snowy/icy mess it wasn't that bad. I'm sure Amazonians will be ok.
A certain major search engine's office has the 24 hour entrance on 9th ave despite having direct access to the IND station on 8th ave.

That said, the storefronts along the walkways between the station entrances and Amazon will have insane rents, everyone wants to be the Starbucks/Dunkin/Hipster-coffe-shop along the way thousands of 6 figure young folk will be walking along each morning... and correspondingly a bar for the evenings.

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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 14 22:15:05 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 14 17:55:49 2018.

Some will be able to afford that. A lot actually but a smallish percentage. I think that a ton will live in trendy Brooklyn and Manhattan neighborhoods and like most young they’ll people have roommates.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 14 23:15:21 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 14 17:55:49 2018.

that sounds about right.

Women ruin everything.

The condos will have a balcony, a gym with cardio, and even an open-air area for walking the dog. Basically a vertical suburb is what they are selling.

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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 14 23:20:29 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 14 23:15:21 2018.

Hey. That sounds like where we’re moving to in LA. We really like being able to hang out on our balcony. I don’t see how anyone can live without one, unless they have a yard.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 14 23:26:46 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Easy on Wed Nov 14 23:20:29 2018.

the problem in NYC is that the balconies just become an outdoor room. a clutter area.

they look messy from the street unless they are built so you can't see through the glass or wiring.

Women are clutter bugs and they will be in control of LIC but at least Amazon LIC increases the chances of Whole Foods finally coming to Queens.

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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 15 02:08:55 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 14 21:08:49 2018.

A certain major search engine's office has the 24 hour entrance on 9th ave despite having direct access to the IND station on 8th ave.

That just seems silly. If nothing else, there is a bit of late night crime in NYC still.* What are they going to say when a Googler gets mugged on 15th between 8th and 9th?

* A colleague of mine was robbed near GCT at 4:30 AM a few years ago.








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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 15 02:38:05 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 14 21:08:49 2018.

That said, the storefronts along the walkways between the station entrances and Amazon will have insane rents, everyone wants to be the Starbucks/Dunkin/Hipster-coffe-shop along the way thousands of 6 figure young folk will be walking along each morning... and correspondingly a bar for the evenings.

Not sure 25K people approaching on half a dozen different routes is critical mass for that. Take a look at Google Street View for Crescent Street from Queensboro Plaza to the Citicorp building. Not wall-to-wall Starbucks and their ilk. Mostly non-retail frontage.


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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 15 03:10:55 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 14 21:08:49 2018.

and correspondingly a bar for the evenings.

Yeah, the hipsters love alcohol.

Even the new Whole Foods in Williamsburg has a bar downstairs. And Whole Foods around the country have added a bar, serving mostly local beer and wine.

Lots of bars around Morgan Ave on the L train.

I love organic covfefe.


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Posted by FtgreeneG on Thu Nov 15 06:58:06 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 18:15:19 2018.

Iawtp. They can paint that Brooklyn Scoot platform F idea will hurt ridership. Not bc of the transfer but bc it wont be a cross plaform transfer. Ridership will suffer resulting in reduction of service. Imo.

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Posted by FtgreeneG on Thu Nov 15 07:02:04 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Easy on Wed Nov 14 22:15:05 2018.

Exactly many will have roommates. Despite insane rents new high rises keep popping up so apparently someone moving in them. This Amazon HQ will spur more development.

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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 15 09:02:27 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 14 18:15:19 2018.

sad, considering the first iteration of the long island rail road was, service from south ferry, brooklyn to greenport.

also, they should re-open holtsville...and, hell, manorville. lengthen all east-of-ronkonkoma-to-riverhead stations to at least four car lengths, and get some decent riverhead to long island city "super" express trains rolling...riverhead, manorville, yaphank, holtsville, skip ronkonkoma, mineola, (maybe floral park...hell, three platforms!...okay, that's a railfan notion), skip jamaica, long island city ferry.

yeps.

oh, re-open richmond hill.

okay, shutting up now.

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Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...''

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Nov 15 09:42:45 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by FtgreeneG on Thu Nov 15 06:58:06 2018.

And the MTA went and spent MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars on Atlantic Terminal, just to turn the whole service into a glorified SHUTTLE....

Yeah, that pisses me off.

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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Nov 15 09:51:19 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 13 13:37:01 2018.

They do that because they probably still have a stop aspect on the dwarf signals. And have to wait for it to change to slow clear.

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Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...''

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Nov 15 09:53:37 2018, in response to Re: ''New Yorkers are freaking out that Amazon's HQ2 could cripple the subway system, but...'', posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 15 03:10:55 2018.

A lot of hipster bars by Metropolitan/Grand on the L too.

And Bedford.

(Worked down there at Automotive HS for years.)

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