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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 09:55:39 2018 A few weeks ago, someone complained that NYCT did not consider ComicCon (I think) when shutting down the west end of the 7 for the weekend. Some responders suggested that NYCT can't be bothered considering such a relatively minor event. Apropos of this, NYCT did not shut down the L this weekend as they had the prior several weekends. I assume this was due to the marathon, even though there were many other ways to take the subway to see the marathon other than the L. But maybe I'm wrong - maybe there was another reason.
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Posted by Stephen Bauman* on Mon Nov 5 10:15:43 2018, in response to Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 09:55:39 2018.* The Marathon made the MTA's calendar because it's decades old. The problem is NYCT's reaction time to newer events. The Marathon disrupts surface transit to such an extent that grade separated transit (subways and el's) are the only reliable transit. There are no parade crossings along the Marathon route.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Nov 5 10:30:04 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Nov 5 10:15:43 2018.* There are no parade crossings along the Marathon route. Ah thanks, good point. I have resorted to the subway system on two occasions solely because of an effectively* uncrossable parade - once Halloween and once St. Patrick's. * It might have been crossable, but it was much quicker to use the subway system to cross it than to find out how I could do it on foot.
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Posted by The Silence* on Mon Nov 5 11:31:55 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Nov 5 10:15:43 2018.* Transit is also on a hard deadline to get the Flushing Line CBTC fully activated.
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Posted by pragmatist* on Mon Nov 5 12:34:12 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by The Silence on Mon Nov 5 11:31:55 2018.* Comic Con is an extremely large event over 4 days, with attendance in the 200K range. Its primary venue is the Javits Center, so for most of the history of the event at that site, the 7 train didn't go there, and people still got there in droves. This is work that really needs to get done, as the Hudson Yards builds out, it will be increasingly difficult to do shutdowns.
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Posted by Strike_Mark* on Mon Nov 5 20:34:37 2018, in response to Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 09:55:39 2018.* I’d argue that Comicon is not a big enough event, it by no means compares to the Marathon.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Nov 5 20:36:47 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by Strike_Mark on Mon Nov 5 20:34:37 2018.* But Comicon is bigger for the 7 than the Marathon is for the L. Still, Stephen's post makes sense.
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Posted by pragmatist* on Mon Nov 5 20:48:26 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 20:36:47 2018.* Comic Con is actually a huge event drawing in the 200000 range over its 4 days, but it thrived before the 7 got to the Javits. Additional sites beyond the Javits are now engaged.
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Posted by Strike_Mark* on Mon Nov 5 20:54:40 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 20:48:26 2018.* As opposed to a citywide event that forces more people to mass transit since there are numerous and extensive road closures?
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Posted by pragmatist* on Mon Nov 5 21:04:38 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by Strike_Mark on Mon Nov 5 20:54:40 2018.* that sounds right...
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Posted by Joe* on Tue Nov 6 07:58:47 2018, in response to Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 09:55:39 2018.* I toured the Hudson Yards terminal shortly after it opened. Then I walked back to Penn Station and the LIRR. To this slow walker, the distance seemed easy. I fault the eastward rise on the escalators, undoing the westward extension of the #7. The escalators should bring you to the west side of 11th Avenue, not halfway back to 10th. Bad design that cannot be corrected.
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Tue Nov 6 20:23:27 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 20:48:26 2018.* The main justification of the 7 extension was to serve the Javits Center, which has its biggest events [that attract public transit patrons] on weekends. If they need to do work on the section beyond Times Square it should be done on a weekday.
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Posted by pragmatist* on Tue Nov 6 21:30:40 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 6 20:23:27 2018.* I'd ask why since it is relatively new, why wasn't most of this work done before it was open.
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Posted by AlM* on Tue Nov 6 23:22:48 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 6 20:23:27 2018.* The main justification of the 7 extension was to serve the Javits Center It was to stimulate Hudson Yards and its associated tax revenues.
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Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration
Posted by Italianstallion* on Tue Nov 6 23:44:57 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 6 23:22:48 2018.* Yes, you are right.
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Posted by Wallyhorse* on Thu Nov 8 21:54:16 2018, in response to Re: Sometimes NYCT takes events into consideration, posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 12:34:12 2018.* And not only that, if you had postponed it to accommodate Comic Con, you could have had Veterans Groups demanding it be postponed an additional week so such can get to Veteran's Day events (Veteran's Day is this Sunday).
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