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Posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018 link to Transit MuseumLooks like it's on CPW this year. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 6 20:18:06 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. It's running express the whole way. Awesome!!!!` |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 7 01:16:21 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Great! |
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iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Wed Nov 7 04:08:33 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Thank God. An express for a change. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Wed Nov 7 04:09:50 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Thank God. An express for a change. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 7 04:47:35 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Can't wait. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 7 07:12:04 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. OMG...R-1/9s on the CPW dash...must make the time for this! |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Nov 7 08:13:19 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 7 07:12:04 2018. Oh my, oh my. Little JayZero is going to wet his panties. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Nov 7 08:43:00 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. I wonder if the train will be relayed at 145th Street lower level between runs, provided that there are no G.O's. in effect on the Concourse route.-William A. Padron ["125"] |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 7 09:00:51 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Nov 7 08:13:19 2018. You just can't control your behavior, Sybil...how sad! |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 7 12:02:57 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Nov 7 08:43:00 2018. If so, why not run in service to 145th? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 7 12:04:05 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Is there any particular reason for the change? 125th seems like an awkward place to relay. |
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Posted by Dan on Wed Nov 7 15:21:06 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Great news but one year I'd still love for the Holiday Special to run outdoors over the WB into Brooklyn. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 7 19:50:42 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 7 12:04:05 2018. I agree. Either 168 St should be used or else the train should run in service to 145 St lower where it can be turned without interfering with the mainline. At 125 St the train would have to Xover one or the other of the express tracks depending on whether A5 or A6 is used. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 7 20:18:40 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 7 12:04:05 2018. Maybe they just decided to try something new. Didn’t run up the SAS last year?I still remember the first time they ran them in passenger service like this, the thing ran express all the way to Forest Hills via the 63rd street line. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:24:36 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Man oh man, do I wish I could be there next month! Nothing tops a CPW DASH on the old timers. They can still howl ASS!! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:24:58 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 6 20:18:06 2018. And they can MOVE!!! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:25:24 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Wed Nov 7 04:08:33 2018. You can say that again!:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:26:38 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Nov 7 08:43:00 2018. Now I really wish they had saved a few more R-10s.... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:28:44 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. I'll bet they'll cover the dash in under 6:15. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 8 00:46:19 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 7 20:18:40 2018. Last year was the first year there was an SAS to run them up. That change made a certain degree of sense, since it kept them relatively confined to the busy midtown corridor (at least as well as running to Queens Plaza would) while allowing the convenience of terminating at an actual terminal, without having to fumigate on the main line at Queens Plaza. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 8 06:51:33 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:24:58 2018. Except that nowadays, there are lots of timers... |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 8 07:04:15 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by randyo on Wed Nov 7 19:50:42 2018. Either 168 St should be used or else the train should run in service to 145 St lower where it can be turned without interfering with the mainline.I disagree. The longer you make this trip, the less trips you will have. The whole point of this is for the holiday shoppers in the midtown area and not rail fans who want the special to accrue more mileage than necessary. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 8 07:20:41 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:28:44 2018. If they don't get hung up behind (A) and (D) trains. And hopefully there ate no g.o.'s that will confine everything to the local track. And also a GOOD motorman! |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Nov 8 08:39:22 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 21:26:38 2018. Yes, and the lament continues still!-William A. Padron ["#3184"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Nov 8 08:46:19 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Dan on Wed Nov 7 15:21:06 2018. Probably not, because NYCT and the TM want to focus on the train being as much as possible in midtown Manhattan to get those shoppers noticing and riding the train up and down the line. If they are delays with the other regular service equipment and track conditions along the WB-based routes, there could be a logistic and public relations nightmare that no one want to encounter with.And so it goes... -William A. Padron ["2nd Ave."] |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Nov 8 13:49:43 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Nov 8 08:39:22 2018. I'm not sure what the condition of those last R10s in service were. I know they had a partial GOH but I doubt that remedied all of their problems. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 8 13:54:05 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Dan on Wed Nov 7 15:21:06 2018. Actually they did, in a way. When the (M) was extended to Essex St a few years back. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Nov 8 14:18:54 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Nov 8 13:49:43 2018. Upon looking at the car on the "Parade of Trains" this past June 2018, ex-GOH'd museum unit #3184 currently has a different sounding air compressor (neither its original WABCO 3YC A-1 type or the NYAB rotary screw compressor), and was riding on a pair of R-32 type trucks.The braking system is handled a bit differently now, which leaves me to believe it does not have the composition brake shoes that caused plenty of flat wheels on the GOH'd fleet. #3184 runs OK now, but it is missing its two A.C.F. builders' plates as I have noticed that would make the car a bit more complete. -William A. Padron ["3184"] |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:32:43 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 8 06:51:33 2018. Going n/b, there's that lone timer just before 125th. Then there's that stupid timer at 81st s/b that has expresses plodding the rest of the way to 59th. You'd make better time on a local. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:33:57 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Nov 8 14:18:54 2018. At least its doors atill open and close rapidly, correct? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:36:21 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 8 07:20:41 2018. That motorman who ran those old timers five years ago out pf Rockaway Park did a yeoman job along CPW. Covered the dash in 6:07! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:37:31 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Someone has to film those old timers ripping past 81st St. going n/b. They're at full speed at that point. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 9 08:59:33 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:33:57 2018. Yeah!-William A. Padron ["#3184"] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 9 09:01:03 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:36:21 2018. The R-10's in regular service on the "A" had done in 5 minutes back in the 1970's, on two occasions that I was on!-William A. Padron ["IND"] |
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Posted by Dan on Fri Nov 9 15:41:36 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Nov 8 08:46:19 2018. Good point. It's supposed to be a 'shoppers' special not a 'railgeeks' special. ;-) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 20:29:35 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 9 08:59:33 2018. Everything about the R-10s was fast: their doors, their compressors and their sheer brute speed as they thundered up CPW. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 20:30:15 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 9 09:01:03 2018. I wish I had timed a few of those R-10 joyrides I went on. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 20:30:46 2018, in response to 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by numbersix on Tue Nov 6 20:16:23 2018. Any word on the progress on 103? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 09:28:29 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 20:29:35 2018. The R10 occasionally MU'd with the R16 on the J and possibly on the 14, and 15 lines in the 1950's. I wonder how the R16 liked being tugged along faster than its comfort level. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Nov 10 12:41:37 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 20:30:46 2018. May be ready next year (2019).-William A. Padron ["IND"] |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 10 16:42:50 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 10 09:28:29 2018. I also saw a few mixed trains of R-10s and 16s on the A in the 1950s. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 10 23:41:47 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 10 16:42:50 2018. Did they put the R-16s at the conductor's post? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 10 23:43:26 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Nov 10 12:41:37 2018. Let's hope so! The Holiday Special has become so popular it's packed! A ninth (and hopefully someday a tenth) car would really come in handy. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 11 12:40:16 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 10 23:43:26 2018. Couldn't get the AB set or a Triplex to tag along with 6 Arnines?Standards would make it 9 cars + 21'. A Triplex would be like 2 Standards, or 14' longer than an 8 car Arnine. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Nov 11 17:17:27 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 10 23:41:47 2018. It varied. Sometimes there were trains with 8 R-16 and 2 R010s at the end and sometimes it was the other way around. I recall circa 1959 seeing an A train of R-10s with the 9th car of the 10 car train an R-16. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Sun Nov 11 17:28:15 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 20:30:15 2018. What I recall, on the n/b CPW express back in the day, there were some timers starting around 86th street. Many train ops took it slow down that 103rd street incline until they could at least see the signals up the track at about 110th. Today even an R68 makes that a joy to ride. There was no stupid timer 'tween 116th & 125th.jrc |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Sun Nov 11 17:33:42 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 18:37:31 2018. That was the best part of an R10 run up CPW back then. They'd hit speed by 72nd already, and shoot thru 81st. Windows open in summer, the external noise and the arcing of the contact show made it a showstopper.We'd ride back & forth 'tween 125th & 59th for hours just because... jrc |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Sun Nov 11 17:36:49 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by r17-6599 on Sun Nov 11 17:33:42 2018. Must have been the rail & trackbed that caused incredible sidesway which we don't get too much of today. Even the R 1-9's gave a performance, with those hand brakes at the car end clanging back & forth.jrc |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 11 17:58:33 2018, in response to Re: 2018 Holiday Shoppers Special, posted by r17-6599 on Sun Nov 11 17:28:15 2018. I recall that even back in the day, the R-10s didn't rip past 116th. Certainly not at the same clip as at 81st, anyway. |
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