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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 18 07:15:54 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 17 22:50:14 2018. That's a big difference. Did those R-11s have concrete floors?I believe the R-11's had Tucolith flooring. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Oct 18 07:21:32 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 18 07:15:54 2018. Yes, the same material used on the R-10's and R-12's. Look down at the floor on museum car #8013 at the TM, and you can it cracking at some parts, with one piece exposed showing the shiny metal bottom body underframe near one of the side doors.-William A. Padron ["R-11/34"] |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Oct 18 07:22:26 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 17 23:33:10 2018. I hear that, Express Rider. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Thu Oct 18 07:25:41 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 17 18:31:20 2018. Being singles adds a lot of weight. They are heavier than the R32 but lighter than the R-16. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 18 07:35:05 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 17 23:33:10 2018. those were good times to buy stuff from the museum.Those "tag sales" were a great fund raiser for the museum back then. I bought an R-11 side roll sign, unused still in the brown wrapping paper. Not sure how much he paid for it. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 18 07:41:11 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 18 07:35:05 2018. I remember hearing about one of the first tag sales mid-late 80's?Read the ad in the NYT, I drove down from Boston for it. Borrowed cash from a friend to spend. I think it was on a Sat. or Sun. The porcelaine pillar signs were $$ but affordable - I bought a Continental Ave. and a Queens Plaza, and I think a rolled up station map (if not Vignelli, then one of the first modern route maps with colors) I remember there was a "feeding frenzy" for the porcelaine signs that said "F Trains to Church Avenue" and the few that were there went in minutes. The large porcelaine signs on the street entrances went for mega bucks - far beyond my budget. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 18 07:44:09 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 18 07:35:05 2018. but an R-11 unused side roll sign still in wrapping paper - getting one is beyond cool..... |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 18 08:18:46 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 17 19:47:39 2018. 5 tons for AC equipment and heavy solid stainless doors replacing the lighter weight material Budd used. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 18 08:21:31 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 17 23:33:10 2018. Too bad Hagstrom is gone. They could be asked to replicate those old maps (for a fee). |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 18 08:35:05 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 18 08:21:31 2018. Gone? As of a couple or few years ago, I could still find those spiral bound atlas road maps for Nassau and Suffolk in places like Stop'n'Shop.I also heard that the company's archives, such as they existed were spotty and haphazard re: NYC subway map editions. If copyright wasn't a problem - for fair use copies, one could always find someone with an original copy of those late 40s Hagstroms done for the BOT, and have them scan a copy, or make a photocopy - latter on one of those large photocopiers for posters, that are at Fedex Office or Staples. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 18 08:40:36 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 18 08:21:31 2018. also, during the mid-90s, the guy that assembled those scanned collections of old subway, H&M maps, etc. and put them into spiral bound folder albums with commentary that he sold - included was an unusual one, a BMT style pre-war subway map, post 1940, produced by the BOT, that DID NOT show the downtown Fulton st. el, or 5th ave. el. for the former there was this large gap in the middle of the map, with message boxes at each end stating something about a transfer to the IND.An an ERA NY Div meeting, he also told me that original early IND BOT maps, 1932-1940 are almost impossible to find for some reason. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 18 08:43:00 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-11's - Before and After, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 18 08:35:05 2018. It was old stock. They're gone. |
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