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where on L,I. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Oct 8 22:02:21 2018 I think it's east of old Babylon 
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Posted by eyedoctor on Mon Oct 8 22:15:36 2018, in response to where on L,I., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Oct 8 22:02:21 2018. Patchogue Scoot? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 8 22:18:29 2018, in response to where on L,I., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Oct 8 22:02:21 2018. It is. I've seen this pic before. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 9 07:54:21 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by eyedoctor on Mon Oct 8 22:15:36 2018. not with third rail. |
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Posted by Q4 on Tue Oct 9 07:56:10 2018, in response to where on L,I., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Oct 8 22:02:21 2018. East of Babylon Station near the Babylon Yard. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 9 08:38:04 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by eyedoctor on Mon Oct 8 22:15:36 2018. It may be the scoot, but where is this located? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 9 08:38:55 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 9 07:54:21 2018. I agree. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 9 08:40:59 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Q4 on Tue Oct 9 07:56:10 2018. Times and places change.Thanks for lending your memory. |
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Posted by andy on Tue Oct 9 08:51:29 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 9 07:54:21 2018. Third rail goes about a mile east of Babylon Station to access the yard. So this is Babylon, east end, before 1964 when the current station was built on the viaduct. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 9 11:24:16 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 9 07:54:21 2018. It is the Patchogue scoot.....at Babylon. |
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Posted by Q4 on Tue Oct 9 17:32:20 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 9 08:40:59 2018. The track configuration is how I got it along with the viaduct carrying Route 231 over the tracks in the background. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 9 17:33:53 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 9 11:24:16 2018. In the 1950's they were also running a Southampton Scoot, usually hauling a P54D ping pong coach, at which point Budd yanked their warranty. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Oct 9 19:23:28 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 8 22:18:29 2018. It is. I've seen this pic before.It's from a Weekend Chief calendar. See the hole on top ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by northshore on Tue Oct 9 19:47:41 2018, in response to where on L,I., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Oct 8 22:02:21 2018. The PRR was in dire financial straits by the 1950;s and the LIRR was a further financial strain. It wanted to abandon north fork and south fork service entirely, but was not permitted by law. It tried Budd RDC;s as a less costly way ro operate the service off peak. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Oct 9 19:53:29 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Q4 on Tue Oct 9 17:32:20 2018. I think that bridge is simply a pedestrian overpass, which would have been necessary to give access to the island platforms-- nothing to do with NY 231, which would be behind the photographer (if it had even been built when the photograph was taken). |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:03:38 2018, in response to where on L,I., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Oct 8 22:02:21 2018. So could this type be an off-the-shelf answer to L.I.R.R's various scoots.FRA Compliant Nippon Sharyo DMU of Union Pearson Express Manufacturer Nippon Sharyo Nagoya, Japan (manufacturing) Rochelle, Illinois, United States (final assembly)[1] Constructed 2013–present Number under construction SMART 4 Number built SMART: 14 UP Express: 18 Capacity 79 seated 80 standing Specifications Car length 85 ft (25.91 m) Maximum speed UPX: 90 mph (145 km/h)[2] SMART: 79 mph (127 km/h) Prime mover(s) Cummins QSK19-R[3] Power output 760 hp (567 kW) Transmission hydraulic AAR wheel arrangement   
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:31:06 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:03:38 2018. More UP photos Please note "B" type can be added between "A" units.  Different Nose Job  An Extended consist.  |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:50:31 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:31:06 2018. Union Express is in Toronto Can. SMART serves the Sonoma-Marin Area Transit in California.At High level platform. But, how high?  A peek inside.    ,  |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 10 10:56:59 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:50:31 2018. I'm sure glad they put those cars the right side UP.No Union Pacific in Canidia. ROAR |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:57:01 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:50:31 2018. Last photo, good for scoots on east end.Ruggage Lacks. So solly. Luggage Racks! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:58:41 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 10 10:56:59 2018. Oops! Union Express! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:59:57 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Oct 10 10:56:59 2018. To Era is Human, so is Avid. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Oct 10 12:45:43 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:03:38 2018. IINM N S has shut down; so these are orphans. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Oct 10 15:59:28 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Oct 9 19:53:29 2018. Wikipedia says NY 231 was built starting in the 1960s. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 16:08:41 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Oct 10 12:45:43 2018. Could they be had at bargain prices? |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 17:51:07 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:03:38 2018. LIRR says they won't clear 3rd rail. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 17:51:07 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 10:03:38 2018. LIRR says they won't clear 3rd rail. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 19:17:47 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 17:51:07 2018. If I were king, and wanted to use them, say on the Patchogue Babylon Scoot, I'd have a single track and PLATFORM DEDICATED for its use at Babylon and heading east to Patchogue.Same for Ronkongkomo/ Greenport, and PatchogueMontauk. Shirley there must be a fix? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 19:19:52 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 19:17:47 2018. Remove just enough turd rail. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 19:24:18 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 17:51:07 2018. About where is the clearance area? Is it the "Plows or "Cow Catcher" or is it on the TRUCKS? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 10 19:52:49 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 19:17:47 2018. The LIRR fooled around with a single-unit diesel "trolley" prototype on the Oyster Bay branch in the '80s, as a way to do Mineola-OB on weekends and off peak. They couldn't make it work. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Oct 10 20:17:01 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Oct 10 12:45:43 2018. N-S USA indeed did shut down. They could start back up, or ship cars from overseas. They still own the design.I wonder if the same design might pop up over in Japan or Australia. the majority of the platforms in both countries is high platform, whether the trackage is electrified or not. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 20:54:21 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 10 19:52:49 2018. I think it was a Britrail Leyland railbus, now known over there as the Class 141 and 142, which are hated by all. It is now in Warehouse Pt, CT |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 20:54:47 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 10 19:24:18 2018. I don't know what did it. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Thu Oct 11 01:00:08 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 9 17:33:53 2018. rail diesel cars were not supposed to be coupled to any other type of passenger car, according to the manufacturer ? Were they run with other RDCs in regular service ? Any specific reason ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 11 07:52:50 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I., posted by jailhousedoc on Thu Oct 11 01:00:08 2018. LIRR only had two RDC's.One would haul a P54D coach in the 1950's and the BM62 car #7743 when on the Patchogue Scoot. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 11 10:16:15 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 20:54:21 2018. IF the test was done as late as 1989, that was almost thirty years ago.The British Rail Class 141 was the first production model of the Pacer diesel multiple units. Its lifespan in the UK was 14 years, some units were exported to Iran operating for 8 years, 
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 11 10:44:40 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 17:51:07 2018. Here is an interesting item:Sumitomo DMU for Toronto’s Union-Pearson Express (Photo: Stephen C Host). CANADA: The first two of 18 diesel multiple-unit cars being supplied by Sumitomo for Toronto’s Union-Pearson Express airport rail link has been delivered to regional transport agency Metrolinx. The US$75m order placed in 2011 covers 12 Type A driving cars and six Type B intermediate cars with toilets, which will enable the operation of a mix of two-car and three-car units. Similar to 18 DMU cars ordered by Sonoma-Marin Area Rail Transit Authority in the USA, they will offer level boarding, wheelchair places and extensive luggage space. They are being are being built at Nagoya in Japan, with final fitting out taking place at Nippon Sharyo’s plant in Rochelle, Illinois. The DMUs will comply with EPA Tier 4 emissions standards, and are designed for easy conversion into EMUs if the proposed electrification of the airport line goes ahead. UP Express is scheduled to launch next year, using 22 km of upgraded route from Union station and a new 3 km elevated spur into the airport. Services will run every 15 min, with a 25 min journey time. The UP Express project was described in detail in the June 2014 issue of railway Gazette International, which magazine subscribers can access in the digital archive. Related news 29 Aug 2017 - SMART commuter rail line opens 05 Oct 2015 - Cummins delivers first QSK95 locomotive engine 08 Jun 2015 - Toronto airport rail link opens 05 Feb 2015 - UP Express selects Nomad wi-fi for 'seamless experience' 10 Nov 2014 - Minsk National Airport rail link launched 10 Sep 2014 - Malpensa Terminal 2 rail link contract awarded 14 Aug 2014 - Nippon Sharyo expands US rolling stock plant 01 Jun 2014 - Feature articles in the June 2014 issue of Railway Gazette International 08 Oct 2013 - Metrolinx orders Tier 4 MotivePower locomotives 04 Jul 2013 - Final Toronto airport rail link construction contract awarded 28 Sep 2012 - Sumitomo selected for four-state coach contract 27 Oct 2011 - Toronto airport rail link preferred bidder named 03 Aug 2010 - Toronto airport rail link negotiations collapse 01 Sep 2008 - Toronto airport link edges closer |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 11 11:14:43 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 11 10:44:40 2018. Plans call for an overhead contact system, with pants on the passenger cars. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 11 11:16:55 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 11 11:14:43 2018. So third Rail would not be utilized, and still be a clearance issue. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Oct 12 09:40:19 2018, in response to Re: where on L,I. Possible New Kid On the Block, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 10 17:51:07 2018. I know I'm kicking a dead horse here, but by just how much is the clearance problem?Six inches? Eight inches? Ten Inches? How much? Would there be an official safety issue if the cover boards were removed for just the terminal area? |
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