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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Oct 3 10:49:14 2018 A few years back Vornado was granted a zoning change to build a new building on West 32nd & 7th, as part of the deal, they were supposed to renovate and re open the Gimbels passageway. AFAIK, they received the variance but never built the building, I read today that they have submitted plans for a new building, I did not read anything about the passageway. Does anyone have any updated info on this passageway. today it is even more important then it was back in the 70's.
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Posted by pragmatist* on Wed Oct 3 13:12:44 2018, in response to gimbels passageway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Oct 3 10:49:14 2018.* The submissions were to an investors meeting, nothing is final since they don't have signed anchor tenants yet. This proposal is 300 feet shorter, not sure what would be required for approval. Things that improve the transit flow in an area might add enough value to the building to be desirable for the developer, regardless.
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Posted by rbseabeach* on Wed Oct 3 13:25:02 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by pragmatist on Wed Oct 3 13:12:44 2018.* ok thank you!
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Posted by Joe V* on Wed Oct 3 18:13:14 2018, in response to gimbels passageway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Oct 3 10:49:14 2018.* Gotta find a new name for that passageway. Nobody under 35 knows what Gimbles was.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 3 18:13:14 2018.* Wasn't it spelled Gimbel's? Not Gimbles. Nobody under 35 is going to remember these names either. EJ Korvettes Gertz Abraham & Straus Ohrbach's Wainrite McCrory's And so on.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Wed Oct 3 18:26:04 2018, in response to gimbels passageway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Oct 3 10:49:14 2018.* I used this passageway during the late 1960's and it was so convenient. When I worked in NYC for awhile during the early to mid 90s, and I took a sixth ave. train downtown, I'd have to walk upstairs, along the street for a block to get to Penn. sta. Inconvenient - especially when it was raining or snowy.
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Posted by randyo* on Wed Oct 3 18:30:17 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* Not to mention W. T. Grant, H. L. Green and F. W. Woolworth, and Mays.
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Posted by Joe V* on Wed Oct 3 18:32:46 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* WT Grant and Grant City Newberrys Bohack Daitch Shopwell EE Supermarket (like between Gibson and Hewlett on Peninsula Blvd)
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Oct 3 18:33:04 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* TSS
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Posted by Joe V* on Wed Oct 3 18:33:41 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 3 18:26:04 2018.* Smelled awful. You needed an antibiotic if you touched any surface.
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Posted by aaron* on Wed Oct 3 19:47:53 2018, in response to gimbels passageway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Oct 3 10:49:14 2018.* Tower Records...
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza* on Wed Oct 3 19:55:46 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by aaron on Wed Oct 3 19:47:53 2018.* King Karol
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Wed Oct 3 23:01:45 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* I know these two: Abraham & Straus F.W. Woolworth's Manhattan Mall was once A&S Plaza. Queens Center (or was it what is now known as Queens Place?) used to have A&S. I think I remember when the Forest Hills Woolworth's became Boston ~~Market~~ Chicken. I wonder if Boston Chicken was the first fast-casual restaurant, before they invented the term.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Wed Oct 3 23:54:23 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 3 18:33:41 2018.* I don't remember any smell. Maybe in later years just before its closure? If you did use it around the same time I did, then either I had a stuffy nose any time I used it :-) , or I just don't remember.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Wed Oct 3 23:59:29 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 3 18:30:17 2018.* At least a couple of people on the Queens Board years back, said Mays was a good place to buy 45's and albums. The Korvettes that my family shopped at in Huntington-Melville, also had a good record section - remember seeing Phil Spector's 45's in the record slots. And they had a whole wall of classical, bins for browsing and deep catalog on shelves just above them. - not transit related..... sorry
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Posted by Express Rider* on Thu Oct 4 00:03:19 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Wed Oct 3 19:55:46 2018.* Sam Goody's Record Hunter Dayton's - on eight street between 6th & 7th. And although this is "specialty" and not a household name like the others: The "Underground Uplift Unlimited" - about midway along the south side of St. Mark's Place during the late 60s. Great English import selection. You took two or three steps down from the sidewalk. It's now a restaurant.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Thu Oct 4 00:05:09 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 3 18:32:46 2018.* A&P
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser* on Thu Oct 4 00:36:09 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 4 00:05:09 2018.* Grand Union Dan's Supreme
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Posted by Michael549* on Thu Oct 4 01:13:28 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 4 00:03:19 2018.* Virgin Records Comp USA J&R Computer World Border's Books Chock Full Of Nuts Nedicks Jack In The Box Arthur Treacher's Digital Equipment Corp. Compaq Computers Wang Computers Pan Am Airways Trans-World Airlines For younger folks I'd add: Radio Shack Sears Texas Instruments Wow, Mike
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Posted by Express Rider* on Thu Oct 4 01:51:56 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Michael549 on Thu Oct 4 01:13:28 2018.* Eastern Airlines (Stop Lorenzo!!!)
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Oct 4 07:23:30 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 3 23:54:23 2018.* It was in the 1970's I don't have a good sense of smell, but I smelled that.
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Posted by Wallyhorse* on Thu Oct 4 08:31:12 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* Try no one under 45.
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Posted by Wallyhorse* on Thu Oct 4 08:32:27 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 3 18:30:17 2018.* Woolworth's was around to the late 1990s, and there is so much about them on the net, they are remembered. The rest, I agree.
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Posted by Wallyhorse* on Thu Oct 4 08:34:05 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Oct 4 00:36:09 2018.* At last check, Shopwell was still around as The Food Emporium, which they have been known as since the early 1980's.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 09:50:30 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 3 18:13:14 2018.* Gimbels is by far the best known of the defunct department stores. If there’s any store from Mitch’s list that would be known it would be Gimbels. This is entirely because of Miracle on 34th Street.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 09:56:12 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* I only know of Gertz because of this board and references to the aftermath of the demolition of the Jamaica el. I similarly know of McCrory’s due to the Cedar Street Subway. I know of E.J. Korvette’s because of Snopes. I never heard of the others.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 09:56:30 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Oct 4 08:31:12 2018.* Makes sense. See my response.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 09:57:15 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 4 09:56:12 2018.* ALSO: I do know about A&S as it lasted significantly longer than the others.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 10:00:30 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Michael549 on Thu Oct 4 01:13:28 2018.* Jack in the Box, Arthur Treachers and Texas Instruments all still exist. Chock full of Nuts is now a supermarket coffee grounds brand.
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Oct 4 10:08:04 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 4 09:56:12 2018.* I know of E.J. Korvette’s because of Snopes. Ha. I first heard the claim that they were 8 Jewish Korea Veterans in 1969. Them being founded in 1948 is a nice simple way to debunk that.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Oct 4 10:14:16 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Oct 4 08:31:12 2018.* Wrong. I know what it was.
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Posted by MTA T* on Thu Oct 4 10:20:40 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Oct 4 08:31:12 2018.* 6ix9ine?
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100* on Thu Oct 4 10:27:24 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 4 10:00:30 2018.* You just won't find Jack In The Box anywhere near NY. Arthur Treacher's was bought out by Nathan's (as was Kenny Rogers Roasters) in the late 90's.
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Posted by Broadway Lion* on Thu Oct 4 10:52:00 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Oct 3 18:19:38 2018.* Korvettes was NOT in the Gimble's building, it was in the old Saks 34th Street Building.
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Posted by rbseabeach* on Thu Oct 4 11:19:42 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 3 18:26:04 2018.* today with the construction of the Dey street passageway, they essentially linked Fulton Transit Center w WTC. Clearly there was a concern to improve connections and allow for better travel during adverse weather conditions and to reduce the crowd capacity above ground. With the Gimbel's passageway, the connection is there already. Think of the convenience with access to PATH, Amtrack, NJ transit, and the subwaY LINES, A B C D E F M N Q R W 1 2 3.
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Oct 4 11:31:10 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 4 09:57:15 2018.* The Brooklyn one was at the A/C Hoyt station. My mother went there quite often in the 1950's and 1960's. They had everything you would want to buy. .
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100* on Thu Oct 4 11:31:59 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 4 11:31:10 2018.* Is that the current Macy's??
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Oct 4 11:32:34 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Oct 4 10:52:00 2018.* There was a Korvettes near GCT on east 43rd or 44th Street. I bought a lot of business shirts there for $7 - $8 1979 -80.
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Oct 4 11:33:05 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Oct 4 11:19:42 2018.* It would take a lot to clean it up and keep it that way.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 11:33:47 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Oct 4 11:31:59 2018.* Yes. It was the flagship.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 11:34:27 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Oct 3 23:01:45 2018.* A&S Plaza was the former Gimbels.
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Oct 4 11:34:57 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 4 10:00:30 2018.* Chock full of Nuts used to be a cheap, rather tacky, coffee shop like Nedicks.
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100* on Thu Oct 4 11:42:36 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 4 11:31:10 2018.* Is that the current Macy's??
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100* on Thu Oct 4 11:42:59 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Oct 4 11:42:36 2018.* Ugh sorry for the double post.
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100* on Thu Oct 4 11:42:59 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Oct 4 11:42:36 2018.* Ugh sorry for the double post.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 11:50:37 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 4 11:33:05 2018.* No more or less than the Dey Passagway.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Oct 4 11:57:16 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 4 11:34:57 2018.* I know that.
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Oct 4 12:08:26 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 4 11:34:57 2018.* But making $2.50/hr min wage on a summer job in Manhattan in 1977 (Wall Street paper security "runner") , I ate there several times.
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Posted by randyo* on Thu Oct 4 13:40:23 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Oct 4 08:34:05 2018.* Thea Food Emporium is an A & P subsidiary.
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Posted by Edwards!* on Thu Oct 4 13:47:18 2018, in response to Re: gimbels passageway, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Oct 4 00:36:09 2018.* A&P is still around. Just spreaded out.
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