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Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 24 08:39:30 2018



Tuscarora Almanac - September 24, 1939 - The Book of First and Last Runs

Manhattan, New York
Hudson & Manhattan Railroad

The Hudson & Manhattan Railroad closes the 28th Street - 6th Avenue Station in Manhattan. On the same day the new terminal called "33rd Street" opens for service.
It is actually located at 32nd Street and replaces the original 33rd Street Terminal which was demolished during the construction of the IND 6th Avenue Subway.




Tuscarora Almanac – September 24, 1949 – The Book of Last Runs

Upper Darby, Pennsylvania
Lehigh Valley Transit

Lehigh Valley Transit discontinues service over the Philadelphia & Western Railway between Norristown and Upper Darby, Pennsylvania. Service between Allentown and Norristown will continue for two more years.

Source: “Lehigh Valley Transit in Color” (Morning Sun Books / 2011) by Mr. Douglas E. Peters

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Sep 24 08:54:49 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 24 08:39:30 2018.

replaces the original 33rd Street Terminal which was demolished during the construction of the IND 6th Avenue Subway.

That explains why there are IND style street name tablets along the outer walls of 33rd St.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 24 09:06:51 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 24 08:39:30 2018.

It is actually located at 32nd Street

I wonder how many tourists have been seriously inconvenienced by this. Worse than "West 4th Street" because at least in that case you just have to walk a block in either direction to find the station. At 33rd, you might walk north and never find it.



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Sep 24 10:12:41 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 24 08:39:30 2018.

replaces the original 33rd Street Terminal which was demolished during the construction of the IND 6th Avenue Subway.

That explains why there are IND style street name tablets along the outer walls of 33rd St.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 24 15:16:47 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 24 09:06:51 2018.

Yeah, I guess they'd just keep walking up Manhattan to 220th St. before asking someone.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 15:48:43 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Sep 24 08:54:49 2018.

Not to mention the "Type II" roadbed construction so ubiquitous on the IND.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 15:50:36 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 24 08:39:30 2018.

Ironic that today, near the old H&M, now PATH "33rd Street" station at 32nd Street, there is still an "H&M" presence. Only it's the clothing store chain at the building on Herald Square that once housed Saks 34th Street and later Korvettes.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 24 15:58:57 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 15:48:43 2018.

Even prior to the IND, stations on the dual contract portions of the IRT and BMT as well as the entire 14 St Line east of Montrose all have type II roadbed.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 24 16:18:41 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 24 09:06:51 2018.

There are PATH signs at 34th Street, and then signs inside leading to the passageway back to the 33rd Street station.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Sep 24 16:23:10 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 15:48:43 2018.

What's the difference between Type I and II?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 18:19:24 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Sep 24 16:23:10 2018.

Type I had full ties on which the tracks were laid, Type II had "half ties" embedded in concrete.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 24 19:37:42 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 18:19:24 2018.

I'm surprised they never redid the BMT Broadway express tracks when you consider how long they weren't used.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 25 15:54:38 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 24, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 24 18:19:24 2018.

Type I is also in ballast as opposed to the concrete roadbed if Type II. Certain parts of the non dual contract potions of the IRT and the ballasted portions of the BMT have been done in a modified Type II in which every 5th tie (usually the 3rd rail support tie) is a full tie. The Philly Broad St is done this way. The original Type II as found on the dual contract portions of the IRT and BMT had the ties bolted into the concrete. The IND and newer potions of the BMT That have the Type II have no bolts as it was felt that the concrete held the ties sufficiently in place. On heavy curves, not only are the ties bolted, but in some places the modified type is used. I have noticed recently that on the modified Type II installations there is a short section of rebar through the ties to hold them in place more firmly.

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