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"I Feel Betrayed By My Company": TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 18 09:03:57 2018

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:07:06 2018, in response to "I Feel Betrayed By My Company": TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 18 09:03:57 2018.

Why did he think that he can use medical marijuana when you have an occupation that specifically need you to be sober and alert at all times while on the clock?

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Sep 18 09:46:00 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:07:06 2018.

Because CBD oil doesn't impair your soberness or alertness. Opioids, on the other hand, do. Yet the TTC will allow the latter but not the former. Something is not right here.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 18 09:57:28 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Sep 18 09:46:00 2018.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:04:17 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 18 09:57:28 2018.

But with these type of jobs, that's their policy. I know of a cop who was a bodybuilder and used a cannabis oil and he got fired. The job was like well you use weed and that's it and he tried explaining but they didn't want to hear it. It sucks, but you know this going into it. She knows it also being a 25-year member

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:34:31 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:04:17 2018.

Bill, was it medically prescribed? NY State permits cannabis if medically prescribed.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:51:53 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:34:31 2018.

It makes no difference when it comes to public sector jobs. That policy clearly states what is on the prohibited list that you cannot take. It's for the same reason why a cop cannot go on vacation to a country that smoke weed where it is legal and then come back and if they get Dole tested, they are fired, no if ands or buts.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Sep 18 11:21:20 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:34:31 2018.

you would still need to get it approved by medical dept of the transportation company you work for . rules are so tight one can not even use over counter cold medication for example.


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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by displaced angeleno on Tue Sep 18 12:15:13 2018, in response to "I Feel Betrayed By My Company": TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 18 09:03:57 2018.

Personally, I think she was beared.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 14:42:44 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Sep 18 11:21:20 2018.

Sheesh!

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 18 15:24:42 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:51:53 2018.

Even in public sector jobs, company and/or agency policies can be unenforceable due to operation of law. If a law says X and company policy says Y, it is the law that supersedes.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 17:32:19 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 18 15:24:42 2018.

If you are a LEO and you ingest otherbthan forced, you will be fired. NO exceptions.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 18 20:03:38 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 17:32:19 2018.

Not if the law says you can’t.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 21:00:55 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 18 20:03:38 2018.

If it's a prerequisite rule of your employment, you can get terminated. It doesn't say you are breaking the law, however you are not allowed to smoke weed or take any type of hemp products as a cop, and a fireman now in New York City.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 18 21:22:16 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Sep 18 09:46:00 2018.

Likely because the former would get protests from religious fanatics who still think that is a sin.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 00:37:29 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 21:00:55 2018.

If it’s medicinal use becomes legalized, that may change.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Sep 19 07:45:41 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:04:17 2018.

Here in NY you would be reclassified without loss of pay with over 20 years on the job or qualify for SSI and NYCERS disability pensions. They

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 07:55:54 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 00:37:29 2018.

It wouldn't. There are several things that as a member of a police department, you are prohibited from doing, even though it's perfectly legal. This will be one of them.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 15:35:36 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 07:55:54 2018.

The law could still copmpel a police dept to change its policies.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 16:00:28 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 15:35:36 2018.

It'll never happen because it is an internal rule that they could enforce at their own discretion. Obviously you can't get criminal charges for it, but if it's a fireable offense, it's a fireable offense. It's been like that since 1986

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 16:01:10 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 15:35:36 2018.

It'll never happen because it is an internal rule that they could enforce at their own discretion. Obviously you can't get criminal charges for it, but if it's a fireable offense, it's a fireable offense. It's been like that since 1986

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 17:29:23 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 16:00:28 2018.

If the courts decide otherwise, the dept has no say.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 17:47:19 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 19 17:29:23 2018.

What part of sworn members of the department are prohibited from taking or ingesting marijuana or products made from marijuana aren't you getting? They simply are NOT allowed, legal or not! There's a list any Patrol guy called prohibited conduct, and almost everything on the list is legal. But the police just can't do it. From owning property in the precinct which you work to running for office to being a locksmith and many more.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 20 14:14:02 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Sep 19 17:47:19 2018.

Courts can supersede and overrule just about anything or anyone except for God Almighty.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 14:20:07 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 20 14:14:02 2018.

They are not going to force the NYPD to let its members ingest marijuana, just like they are not going to force the NYPD to let its members be locksmiths while they are active members.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 21 16:22:22 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 14:20:07 2018.

Don’t be too sure about that. A few years ago, a woman was denied a job as an asst C/R on the LIRR due to her height and sued the RR for sex discrimination. Even though the RR demonstrated that she was too short to safely reach and activate the trains emergency valve which was a definite impediment to her being hired, the judge ordered the RR to hire her anyhow.

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 21 16:28:14 2018, in response to Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 21 16:22:22 2018.

Shame on that judge. He was wrong, just like the judge that ordered all of the black fire candidates who did not do good on the test to get hired not only forthwith, but to have retroactive seniority as well! If you were qualified for the job, you are qualified for the job. However, if you're not, you're not! Nobody wants to work with a bunch of runts and cunts do to a court decision. The former police commissioner Ben Ward was correct when he said they lowered the height standards in the NYPD to hire more women and Puerto Ricans, but all the job got stuck with was a bunch of short little Italians!

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Re: ''I Feel Betrayed By My Company'': TTC Subway Operator Bored While Using Medicinal Cannabis

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 22 01:44:52 2018, in response to "I Feel Betrayed By My Company": TTC Subway Operator Bared While Using Medicinal Cannabis, posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 18 09:03:57 2018.

The battle rages on.

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