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Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION

Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018








MU Trains DD1 Electrics at NY World's Fair

United Nations Station with MU - Flushing United Nations Station with MU - Flushing Meadows 1952

United Nations Station - Flushing Meadows 1946 Archive: Art Huneke


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Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION

Posted by chud1 on Sun Jul 15 13:09:26 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures.


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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Jul 15 17:12:54 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

Awesome!!! Thank You!!!

(and- let me get this straight- they demolished all of that?- geez...)

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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Jul 15 17:13:01 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

Awesome!!! Thank You!!!

(and- let me get this straight- they demolished all of that?- geez...)

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Posted by Dave on Sun Jul 15 18:09:53 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

Nice photos. I don't see any DD1s in the third photo.

You sure about that 1952 date? Demolition of the line to the 1939 WF began in January 1941. The station was demolished when he Fair closed in 1940.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 15 19:39:45 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Dave on Sun Jul 15 18:09:53 2018.

You sure about that 1952 date? Demolition of the line to the 1939 WF began in January 1941. The station was demolished when he Fair closed in 1940.

You're not think of the IND World's Fair station, are you ?

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 15 19:41:46 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

Nice pix you dug up, Avid. You can add this one to your collection
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Jul 15 20:23:47 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

Again, thanks so much for finding these great photos and posting them.

My Dad and a friend (both from upstate NY) took the LIRR to this station for the WF, since they weren't completely familiar with the entire IND network.
(From Middletown, he and his friends would take the Erie > H&M to Hudson Terminal > the IND uptown to the midtown area during the mid 1930s).

The MP-41 in the foreground of the second photo foreground, was used as a service casr for the LIRR WF station (re: "service car - I can't describe it more
specifically. I was told it's status once, but don't remember whether it was used as a crew car or in work service at this station.)

I bought a photo - an overhead view looking directly down on this car from Ron Ziel. It was layed up on one of the outer tracks.
Maybe the northernmost westbound track?

I can get to this photo if it's in my LIRR folder in my filing cabainet rather than packed away in some box in the "deep space nine/
unexplored Carlsbad Caverns area" of my storage unit.

Would I be able to scan it into some kind of viewable doc. (by converting it or some other option) at my public library and
somehow get it onto Subchat?

I Googled images on line to see if somehow maybe it has been posted to the web. I was only able to find one more WF image
of it - see the URL below. Could someone embed this and get the photo onto subchat? If so thanks in advance.

https://www.antiquesnavigator.com/archive/2016/05/08/182115283533.jpg

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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Jul 15 20:41:31 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Sun Jul 15 20:23:47 2018.

ER - your father was from MIddletown??

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Posted by Dave on Sun Jul 15 21:23:13 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 15 19:39:45 2018.

No, I'm not. I'm referring to the 1938-40 LIRR line to the WF.

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Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION

Posted by VictorM on Sun Jul 15 21:26:07 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Sun Jul 15 20:23:47 2018.

Here's the photo:


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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 15 21:33:26 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Dave on Sun Jul 15 21:23:13 2018.

The LIRR did not have a line to the World's Fair. The station was on the PW Line and is the same station as modern day Mets-Willets Point.

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Posted by northshore on Sun Jul 15 21:45:07 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

This World's Fair station also served long distance PRR trains direct from Penn Staion and points west.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 16 00:04:42 2018, in response to Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 15 12:48:35 2018.

why does the station appear to have three levels? I'm guessing to give it a futuristic look?

Great photos.

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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:14:12 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Jul 15 20:41:31 2018.

yes he was. grew up on Highland Ave. #154. That was "Grandma's house" when I was growing up.

re: the following thread from April 2016, awhile back I'd mentioned the family connection in Middletown, and that's when you originally asked me about it, and we responded back and forth a few times.

I was going to copy the original posts but there was more than one, and mine were pretty long.

You can probably search the thread below at Subchat's simple search page.


To Lou Middletown NY was Re: Color photo of Erie RR...Passaic
Posted by Express Rider on Wed Apr 6 02:11:15 2016, in response to Re: Color photo of Erie RR station in Passaic NJ, c. 1955, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Apr 5 23:31:39 2016.


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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:16:47 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Sun Jul 15 20:23:47 2018.

This didn't seem to post the photo, so it's viewable on my notebook. If other's can view it let me know. Thanks.


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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:51:56 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Sun Jul 15 20:23:47 2018.

I found the photo in my filing cabinet, but I also finally found the photo on-line, just now, at aart's archives LIRR website.

he has an entire webpage on the LIRR at the 1939-40 World's Fair.
URL is below:

https://arrts-arrchives.com/1939wf.html

Here is the URL for the MP-41 photo on his page, that I found in my filing cabinet. I right clicked on the photo for properties, and then copied and pasted its URL below

https://arrts-arrchives.com/images3/mp41wf39.jpg

I have not been to that tutorial page yet, but I will try to paste
this photo here, using embed info. from an older subchat post.

Please let me know if the image is viewable. If it isn't, could someone else please embed this image? Thanks.




PS - the photo I bought from Ziel, has the note "copyright pending" etc. on the back of the photo. I think all the photos he sold had that note on the back of each one. Did he purchase negatives from other rail photographers collections or estates, and then put that note on so he could, in the future claim ownership, to prevent others from copying the photo for use in a book or to re-sell?



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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:57:30 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by VictorM on Sun Jul 15 21:26:07 2018.

I only can see the following in your post, not the photo:

Photo Hotlinked!
See the original
photo by visiting:

www.AntiquesNavigator.com

Can others view the photo from this site? If not, please let me know. Thanks.

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Posted by Dave on Mon Jul 16 07:14:37 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 15 21:33:26 2018.

"The United Nations, commencing operation in 1946 after the end of World War II, was first headquartered at the site of the 1939-40 N. Y. World’s Fair. The large, futuristic, Fair station had been demolished after the Fair closed in 1940 and was replaced by this much smaller and less elaborate station facility on the site of the previous station."

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrworldfair/lirrworldfair.htm

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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Jul 16 08:32:25 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:14:12 2018.

Ha - I can't remember posts from two years ago....

But I'm not far from that address at all - walking distance, if you don't mind the hills!

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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Jul 16 09:22:44 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:51:56 2018.

What a cool website - the Pennsy really went for the fair in a real big way! One always wondered how they handled the through trains - when it was simple as hooking a DD-1 onto the GG-1 leading the train. That shot alone is worth it. ''

Obviously the LIRR didn't or couldn't do as much in 64/65, but who knew Jack Cassidy's brother was an LIRR engineer?

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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Jul 16 10:49:59 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:51:56 2018.

and to think those MP41`s ran over the broadway[Jamaica] EL from chestnut st. to delancy st[1905/13] and then to chambers st.[1913/17] not 1 photo exsists of this unique operation.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 16 11:01:23 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 16 07:14:37 2018.

Yes, and?

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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 16 15:19:44 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Jul 15 17:13:01 2018.

YEP! Gone.

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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 16 15:25:21 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 15 19:39:45 2018.

During the late stages of WW II the former indoor ice rink was used as the first UN building and lasted until the current UN was built.

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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 16 15:28:06 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 15 19:41:46 2018.

Super!

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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 19:11:00 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Jul 16 10:49:59 2018.

re: not 1 photo exists of this unique operation.

well, as you've said, that another piece of the grail to hunt for - along with your wish to find any photos of IRT gate cars & NYWB MU's across the platform from each other at their Bronx terminal.

but not one photo of this MP41 routing - that's amazing. if none really exists, then there's no photo buried deep in Edward B. Watson's collection. How about Robert Presbrey's collection? Was there ever a BRT photo archive? what about photos taken archived and never used by the Brooklyn Eagle?

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Posted by VictorM on Tue Jul 17 03:18:05 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 05:57:30 2018.

It showed up right after I first posted it but I now get the same error message. I'm glad you were able to find it and post it from arrts-arrchives.com.

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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 17 08:47:24 2018, in response to Re: Photos of 1939 WORLD FAIR LIRR STATION, posted by Express Rider on Mon Jul 16 19:11:00 2018.

If the photo is out there, it just hasn't been revealed to the adoring public, yet.

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