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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 10 18:36:58 2018 Streetcars |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jul 11 07:11:31 2018, in response to Bombardier apologizes..., posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 10 18:36:58 2018. Now, they have to apologize for the R179 |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Jul 11 08:48:13 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jul 11 07:11:31 2018. Agreed |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 11 16:31:36 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jul 11 07:11:31 2018. LOL.For lateness of the order. For all the teething issues of the 4 car units. For the big delay of the first of the two 5 car units going into service. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jul 11 16:50:47 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 11 16:31:36 2018. for being an incompetent organization! |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Jul 12 01:59:57 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 11 16:31:36 2018. Because the R179s appear to be virtual clones of the R160s, why didn't the MTA just extend the R160 contract with the original vendors instead of starting from scratch? The wheel had already been invented, why try to invent another one just like it? |
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Posted by Bzuck on Thu Jul 12 13:19:21 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by gbs on Thu Jul 12 01:59:57 2018. My thoughts exactly! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jul 12 13:42:02 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by gbs on Thu Jul 12 01:59:57 2018. I've had the same thought myself. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Jul 12 15:03:31 2018, in response to Re: Bombardier apologizes..., posted by gbs on Thu Jul 12 01:59:57 2018. That may not have been possible from a legal and financial standpoint. Contracts such as those are done by evaluation of RFP, not strictly bid results and must be approved by the Board to be exempted from the usual bid process. There are usually options to these deals, and provisions for added costs, but once the original terms ran out, any attempt to sole source negotiate without a real good reason would end up in court. It was 10 years after the 160 deal, I'm sure enough new stuff was desired that would make any deal almost a new one price wise. Also, the funding came from the next 5 year plan. Would the Alstom shells from Brazil be desirable when BBD would fabricate in NYS (Plattsburgh) Remember, it takes upstate votes to get MTA money approved. |
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