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SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018 Good-bye old gals |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 12 19:07:09 2018, in response to SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018. Were these the streetcars stored on the pier ?Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 12 19:13:37 2018, in response to SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018. Were they ex SEPTA or ex NJT Newark Subway ? |
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Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 12 19:52:15 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by Joe V on Sat May 12 19:13:37 2018. Most likely the ones on the list acquired in the 1950s and whose last run was 1982 are the MUNI PCCs. Those are numbered 1023 through 1140. 1054 is the exception there; former SEPTA 2121 and rear-ended by a MUNI LRV in 2003. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 12 21:44:33 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 12 19:52:15 2018. San Francisco bought the last batch of new PCs in 1951. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat May 12 22:03:54 2018, in response to SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018. That's rough stuff |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 13 00:43:47 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 12 21:44:33 2018. I thought that Boston’s picture window PCCs came in 1952. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 13 01:13:00 2018, in response to SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018. deliberately allowed to deteriorate by Muni mgmt. Now basically beyond repair. Almost all could have been rehabbed in the early 90s and stille be rolling up the miles. disgusting. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun May 13 10:12:41 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 13 01:13:00 2018. Though not with rail cars, it was a Moses tactic to let historic assets deteriorate, then say "it's too far gone and should be destroyed." |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 13 13:14:35 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by SLRT on Sun May 13 10:12:41 2018. yes, he has people channeling him among Muni mgmt--yes, despite the success of the F Market (if tripling the ridership of the previous ETB is success) there are Muni people who want to rid of the historics/vintage cars. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun May 13 13:26:51 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by randyo on Sun May 13 00:43:47 2018. And also in the batch to be disposed will ex-Pittsburgh PCC's #4008 and #4009, which were last used in service on the #47D Drake line back in September 1999. Thus, it would leave just three of the 4000-series in existence: #4001 on PAT property, #4007 on static display in Bethel Park, and #4004 at the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum in Washington, PA.-William A. Padron ["1711"] |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun May 13 16:44:32 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 13 13:14:35 2018. If need be, the City of SF should subsidize them beyond Muni. They are a tourist draw in the same vein as the Cable Cars, though not quite so unique. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 13 17:43:10 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by SLRT on Sun May 13 16:44:32 2018. Muni is the city. That said, it is more a case of internal BS. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun May 13 19:21:16 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by William A. Padron on Sun May 13 13:26:51 2018. Do you know how many non-PCCs are in F-Line service? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 13 20:29:04 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by SLRT on Sun May 13 19:21:16 2018. The Muni fleet |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 14 07:02:36 2018, in response to SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018. Unfortunate- but you can't save everything. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon May 14 10:24:29 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 14 07:02:36 2018. Yes, that is the way it is! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon May 14 10:24:29 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 14 07:02:36 2018. Yes, that is the way it is! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon May 14 10:24:29 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 14 07:02:36 2018. Yes, that is the way it is! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon May 14 11:33:40 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon May 14 10:24:29 2018. Triple post! My bad!!!!! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon May 14 13:39:31 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by Joe V on Sat May 12 19:13:37 2018. Were they ex SEPTA or ex NJT Newark Subway ?1023, 1031, and 1038 are ex-Muni 1054 and 1064 are ex-SEPTA 1100s are ex-Muni exx-St. Louis 4008 and 4009 are ex-PATransit |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon May 14 20:17:10 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by MainR3664 on Mon May 14 07:02:36 2018. indeed not. however, deliberately storing cars outdoors with no effort to wetherproof them in a city of salt fog from the Bay and ocean is beyond stupid. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue May 15 08:40:48 2018, in response to SF Muni- disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 12 19:01:34 2018. What about that outfit that restores PCC trolleys, Could they be approached to use the condemned as a parts source? |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat May 19 10:10:32 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 13 20:29:04 2018. What a treasure trove of information. THANKS! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 19 20:32:13 2018, in response to Re: SF Muni—disposal of Streetcars, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 13 20:29:04 2018. You are quite welcome! Enjoy! |
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