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Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by andy on Sat Apr 14 08:53:35 2018

Yesterday I was transferring from the E to the #7 at Court Square. I noticed that the moving walkway only operates in one direction towards the E/M 23rd-Ely Station. There is no walkway going the opposite way, that is from the E/M to the #7. Anyone know why?

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 14 08:58:57 2018, in response to Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by andy on Sat Apr 14 08:53:35 2018.

Is there only one walkway? I forget. If so, obviously it can only move in one direction. They must have stats on which direction is the more popular at different times of day. It probably goes the other way at other times.




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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Apr 14 11:02:59 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 14 08:58:57 2018.

perhaps it could, but I understand knot.

Hardly matters, some of us can apparate from one place to another, and just ride on the subways for the fun of it.

ROAR

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Allan on Sat Apr 14 11:24:28 2018, in response to Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by andy on Sat Apr 14 08:53:35 2018.

If you look at the existing walkway - the mechanical portion against the wall is rather wide. If they added another moving walkway for the opposite direction there probably would not be much room for people to walk (if they weren't using the walkway).

That walkway is rather old and I am sure that a replacement is not a priority item.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by George Foelschow on Sat Apr 14 14:58:10 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Apr 14 11:02:59 2018.

"apparate"? How dismissive of the overwhelming majority of New York subway riders, who don't ride the subway just for the fun of it.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by northshore on Sat Apr 14 15:01:08 2018, in response to Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by andy on Sat Apr 14 08:53:35 2018.

Passengers only travel in one direction. Everybody goes from the the G to the E in the morning, and from the E to the G in the evening.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by heypaul on Sat Apr 14 17:10:04 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Allan on Sat Apr 14 11:24:28 2018.

The MTA anticipates that the Court Square station will be seeing a big increase in traffic during the L train shutdown. In order to increase the capacity of the passageway, there is a report that the people mover will be removed this summer and not be replaced in the future (if there is one).

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I will be hosting "A Farewell to the People Mover" during the last hours of its operation. It will be a 3 hour event, with several runbys and plenty of opportunities to photograph the people mover. When the plug is finally pulled on the operation, People Moverfans will be allowed to take home any parts of the machinery. Fans can bring hand trucks, forklifts, and block and tackle to facilitate removal. Admission to the event is $25 for the general public, $40 for Transit Museum members and $75 for SubChatters.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 14 18:12:40 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by heypaul on Sat Apr 14 17:10:04 2018.

Are they still going to import some old TTC buses ?

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by heypaul on Sat Apr 14 18:17:13 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 14 18:12:40 2018.

"Are they still going to import some old TTC buses ? "

Yes, 8 35' old TTC buses will provide shuttle service in the Court Square passageway.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 14 19:45:48 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 14 08:58:57 2018.

They must have stats on which direction is the more popular at different times of day. It probably goes the other way at other times.

I heard that the reason why the people mover operates in one direction was to pacify the (G) line riders who complained of the long walk to transfer to the (E).

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 14 20:59:25 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 14 19:45:48 2018.

And it makes sense that possibly the larger flow of traffic is from the G in the morning and to the G in the afternoon. If that's true, then that's the way the people mover should operate.



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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Apr 15 06:49:53 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 14 20:59:25 2018.

And it makes sense that possibly the larger flow of traffic is from the G in the morning and to the G in the afternoon. If that's true, then that's the way the people mover should operate.

Correct, but there is also the possibility that the people mover is old an would need to be replaced. Also the speed of the mover which is probably slower than the average strap hangers brisk walk to slow the flow. I'm thinking the former.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Apr 15 07:42:22 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Apr 15 06:49:53 2018.



Also the speed of the mover which is probably slower than the average strap hangers brisk walk to slow the flow. I'm thinking the former.

Bill: You're right about the speed. Most of us could outwalk it but it was good for the old folks and the mothers with kids.

The tourist from Kansas probably thought it moved at warp speed.

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Apr 15 15:13:34 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Apr 15 06:49:53 2018.

Wait a minute. Whenever I use a people mover, I walk on it, so I travel twice as fast as either walking or the mover by itself.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 15 16:12:13 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by italianstallion on Sun Apr 15 15:13:34 2018.

Agreed. People movers are meant to be walked on.


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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Apr 16 08:27:17 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 14 08:58:57 2018.

There is no room for two and allow enough room for ADA clearance in the walkway.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by MRW on Mon Apr 16 17:24:29 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 15 16:12:13 2018.

There are actually two moving walkways in the passage, but they are essentially one because they form a long line with a break in the middle. One or both of the walkways is often down for repairs and when they do function, it's always in the direction of towards the E/M.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 16 20:00:20 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by MRW on Mon Apr 16 17:24:29 2018.

Ah, so even in the evening rush, when you'd expect the bigger traffic flow to be from the E/M to the G, they're still heading toward the E/M?

Maybe the reverse motor is broken. :)


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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Apr 17 15:22:32 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Apr 15 07:42:22 2018.

and why would a tourist from Kansas find themselves getting off at 23rd & Ely, except if they were lost?

- Paris Metro had a people mover at Montparnasse Bienvenue to transfer from line 12 to line 4(?) in 1968. There was more than one walkway, and they were moving in both directions.
There were people movers at other transfer points as well, but I don't rememeber where.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Apr 17 15:43:15 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Express Rider on Tue Apr 17 15:22:32 2018.

Cheaper hotels.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 17 15:47:24 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Express Rider on Tue Apr 17 15:22:32 2018.

and why would a tourist from Kansas find themselves getting off at 23rd & Ely, except if they were lost?

To visit their cousin in Greenpoint.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 17 16:41:23 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 17 15:47:24 2018.




and why would a tourist from Kansas find themselves getting off at 23rd & Ely, except if they were lost?
Precisely,

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Apr 17 16:43:26 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Apr 17 16:41:23 2018.

:-)


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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Apr 18 08:51:00 2018, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 14 19:45:48 2018.

Do they not transfer the other way at a different time of day?

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by mrw on Thu Sep 12 21:39:51 2019, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Apr 18 08:51:00 2018.

Moving walkway was taken out sometime in the last year and tiled over.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Sep 12 21:48:36 2019, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by Express Rider on Tue Apr 17 15:22:32 2018.

Paris Metro had a people mover at Montparnasse Bienvenue to transfer from line 12 to line 4(?) in 1968.

I made a transfer at that station a year ago, from the 6 to (IIRC) the 13, and it was an endless journey along multiple corridors and up several stairways.

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Sep 13 08:33:53 2019, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by George Foelschow on Sat Apr 14 14:58:10 2018.

+1

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Sep 13 11:11:33 2019, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by George Foelschow on Sat Apr 14 14:58:10 2018.

Answering a 16 month old post?

ROARING

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Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 13 21:10:04 2019, in response to Re: Court Square Transfer Passage - LI City, posted by mrw on Thu Sep 12 21:39:51 2019.

The Court Square moving walkway is adjourned.

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