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Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Mar 13 22:31:27 2018

With all the timers being added, where is the worst placement of a timer that you know about? As in 'why the f**k is there a timer signal here?'.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Mar 13 23:24:19 2018, in response to Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Mar 13 22:31:27 2018.

Northbound A express track at B'way Jct. Timer uphill at conductors board.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 13 23:40:22 2018, in response to Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Mar 13 22:31:27 2018.

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/03/13/the-trains-are-slower-because-they-slowed-the-trains-down/


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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 14 00:00:01 2018, in response to Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Mar 13 22:31:27 2018.

Northbound Q through 49th st.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by MTA T on Wed Mar 14 01:07:33 2018, in response to Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Mar 13 22:31:27 2018.

Leaving 34/Penn, local track southbound

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 14 17:09:36 2018, in response to Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Mar 13 22:31:27 2018.

Agree with all the posts. However, there is one spot that SHOULD have a timer, but dosen't. Its the Flushing bound track approaching QBP from Court Sq. You go up the hill with the "irish eyes" lookin at you as you whip into the station out of that 90 degree turn, only then you run into a timer. Point being, a T/O can go up that hill "wrapped around" without any timers in place before the curve.Only then run into timers 2 or 3 carlengths into the station. If you are standing up, sometimes you feel the centrifical force pushing you into a door or maybe leaning into some ones newspaper with the strap pushed all the way in. 50 or so feet above Queens Plaza So.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Wed Mar 14 17:29:31 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Mar 13 23:24:19 2018.

I've seen videos on the A train about that one. Train almost has to come to a complete stop before that one clears.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 14 17:53:12 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 14 17:09:36 2018.

That is an interesting point. Many locations like that one don’t have timers where needed and other locations where timers make less than no sense have them.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 14 17:56:48 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Wed Mar 14 17:29:31 2018.

Timers on an upgrade make less than no sense at all. among others that are similarly stupid are the single try on the S/B tk between Lawrence (now Metrotech) and Dekalb and N/B between Park Place and Chambers on the IRT. I seem to recall that with the new signaling on the IRT GT signals were installed on the N/B lcl tk entering Franklin Av which is also upgrade.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Mar 14 19:47:53 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 14 17:53:12 2018.

How about the one at 9th St. on the nb express track along 4th Ave? Ruins a great express sprint. A train will be unwinding, screaming along, then has to slam on the brakes. Just plain stupid.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 14 20:05:03 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 14 17:53:12 2018.

Would make an interesting thread, the reverse, Trackage & routes that should have timers but don't

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by gbs on Thu Mar 15 03:19:44 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 13 23:40:22 2018.


An article in the Village Voice:
The trains are slower

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 15 08:29:37 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 14 17:09:36 2018.

I never had the sense the timers were meant for passenger comfort (other than to keep them alive and non-hospitalized).

Anyway, I wonder if the short length of IRT cars makes the standard different with regard to need for timers.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Mar 16 15:44:38 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 14 00:00:01 2018.

Northbound signal A4-6 at 57th Street/7th Avenue, when A4-5/X-34 shows clear line-up for 63rd Street.

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Re: Timers in awkward/bad places

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 17 18:23:47 2018, in response to Re: Timers in awkward/bad places, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 15 08:29:37 2018.

Passenger comfort was not my point. I was just trying to emphasize the feeling of excessive speed at that particular spot.

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