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Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 08:24:06 2018




Tuscarora Almanac - March 12, 1906 - The Book of First Runs

Manhattan, New York
Interborough Rapid Transit Company


The IRT Broadway Line is extended from 157th Street to a temporary station at 221st Street. Stations are opened at Dyckman Street, 215th Street and 221st Street. The temporary station at 221st will remain in service until January 14, 1907 when the line is extended to 225th Street.

The stations at 168th Street and 181st Street will open on May 30, 1906. The station at 191st Street will open on January 14, 1911. The station at 207th Street will open on April 1, 1907.

Source: New York Division Bulletin /July 1985, article "Eighty Years of Subway Service to the Bronx" by Mr. David Rogoff



Tuscarora Almanac March 12, 1936 The Book of First and Last Runs

Manhattan, New York
New York Railways
New York City Omnibus Corporation

Buses replace streetcars on New York Railways 6th Avenue Line. The replacement bus service will be run by New York City Omnibus as Route 5.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / November 1987, article by Mr. Bernard Linder



Tuscarora Almanac March 12, 1953 The Book of First Runs

Flushing, Queens, New York
New York City Board of Transportation IRT Division

Super Express service during the AM rush begins on the Flushing Line. Service during the PM rush will begin on September 8. Super Expresses run non-stop between Willets Point Boulevard and Queensboro Plaza.

Source: New York Division Bulletin /October 1964, article by Mr. Bernard Linder

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by zac on Mon Mar 12 09:11:25 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 08:24:06 2018.

I always thought the super express was a world's fair thing. I guess not.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by andy on Mon Mar 12 09:23:28 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 08:24:06 2018.

Should also add that March 12, 1888 was the date of the Great Blizzard, which immobilized all railroad and elevated train lines in New York and all over the Northeastern United States.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by northshore on Mon Mar 12 09:35:52 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by zac on Mon Mar 12 09:11:25 2018.

You are correct. The Super Express ran in the 1950's and then revived for the World's Fair in 1964 and remained in service a few years later.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 11:51:40 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by zac on Mon Mar 12 09:11:25 2018.



I always thought the super express was a world's fair thing. I guess not.

The super-express ran during the early fifties. It ran in addition to the regular express.

The World's Fair Specials ran to and from the fair but not when the regular express was running.

Larry, RecdirdR33



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 12 13:18:59 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 11:51:40 2018.

Funny thing both companies ran WF specials, right?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 13:59:43 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 12 13:18:59 2018.



Funny thing both companies ran WF specials, right?

Lou: Both the IRT and the LIRR ran specials to the 1964-65 fair.

The IND tried to get in on the act running a special non-stop from Hoyt Street to Roosevelt Avenue. It was discontinued after a few weeks due to low patronage.

Larry, RedbirdR33



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 12 14:18:57 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by andy on Mon Mar 12 09:23:28 2018.

It was also responsible for the law requiring all electrical wiring in NYC to be placed underground including trolley wire which came later necessitating TARS and NY Railways having to install conduit for current collection.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Mar 12 16:43:11 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 13:59:43 2018.

I never heard of that service. Do you know anything else about it?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 12 17:30:48 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Mar 12 16:43:11 2018.

1. It was technically not part of the IND, but a separate, temporary entity, called the World's Fair Railroad.

2. It took a LOT of wrangling between the city, the state and Robert Moses to get built - Moses and some upstate Republicans insisting it wasn't needed, but LaGuardia and downstate Democrats insisting it was.
It finally got started, when it was agreed it would temporary, and that 10 cents would be charged - a nickel to leave the the station at the fair,and a dime to enter at the fair.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 17:57:06 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Mar 12 16:43:11 2018.



I never heard of that service. Do you know anything else about it?

It began running on April 22, 1964. Trains would leave from Hoyt-Schmerhorn Streets about every half-hour from 9:30 AM to 3:00 PM. They ran non stop over the Crosstown and Queens Blvd. express track to Roosevelt Avenue where passengers would transfer to the Flushing Line. The trains would them dead head to Forest Hills and go into regular "GG" service.
No return service was offered except for regular "GG" trains.

The service was poorly advertised and not well patronized. It was discontinued on either May 6 or 7, 1964.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 13 01:11:31 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 12 17:30:48 2018.

Hes not talking about the 1939 fair but the 1964/65 fair which had no iND branch going there.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Mar 13 15:48:59 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 12 17:30:48 2018.

So there was a precedent for the double fare that was charged on the Rockaway line when it opened!

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Mar 13 15:52:44 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 17:57:06 2018.

Wouldn't it have gotten stuck behind the regular GGs? Or were GG headways so long that it could run non-stop from Hoyt to Queens Plaza and not encounter a red signal?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Mar 13 15:54:48 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Mar 12 11:51:40 2018.

And the World's Fair Specials didn't stop at Queensboro Plaza.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Mar 13 15:59:07 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 12 14:18:57 2018.

NYC at the time meaning Manhattan. I guess that law was not extended to the other boroughs at consolidation in 1898. In fact, wasn't there trolley wire in upper Manhattan (like 207 St.)?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 13 16:46:06 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Mar 13 15:59:07 2018.

Correct. I remember as a very young boy riding the 138 St Xtown trolley which ran across 135 St in Manhattan completely under wire. Some sources have indicated that the 145 St Xtown changed to conduit on the Manhattan side of the bridge but that was also because that route connected to and ran along the Bway/Kingsbridge car line which was all conduit. 155 St bustituted when I was too young to remember it so I dont recall whether that retained the wire or changed to conduit. The cars coming across 181 St and 207 St were all under wire.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Mar 13 17:22:42 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 12, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Mar 13 15:52:44 2018.




Wouldn't it have gotten stuck behind the regular GGs?

It possibly did but the GG didn't have frequent headways so about the time that it caught up to its leader it would switch to the express track, maybe.

Larry, RedbirdR33


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