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Posted by gbs on Wed Mar 7 19:56:30 2018, in response to Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by andy on Wed Mar 7 19:21:10 2018. If I remember my history correctly, the MTA was created in whole or in part to curb Robert Moses's power and allow toll revenues from his empire, the Triboro Bridge and Tunnel Authority, to be used for mass transit. Its creation was made possible by the Rockefeller brothers, Nelson (governor of New York) and David (president of Chase Manhattan Bank). It's all explained in great and exquisite detail in Robert Caro's masterpiece "The Power Broker".  |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Wed Mar 7 20:23:57 2018, in response to Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by andy on Wed Mar 7 19:21:10 2018. Holy Ronan EmpireVader |
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Posted by andy on Wed Mar 7 22:12:39 2018, in response to Re: Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by gbs on Wed Mar 7 19:56:30 2018. 100% correct about that, including the reference to the Caro biography of Moses. My own book, From a Nickel to a Token (2015, Fordham Press), also covers the MTA creation in the last chapter (20). |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Mar 8 16:47:13 2018, in response to Re: Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by gbs on Wed Mar 7 19:56:30 2018. One of MTA Chairman, William Ronan's most memorable acts was enticing Robert Moses to give up his little kingdom- The Triboro Bridge & Tunnel Authority. Ronan finally got Moses to sign it over by giving him a seat on the MTA Board. All went well for Moses, until Ronan fully consolidated the TBTA into the MTA. When that was completed, Moses was deliberately frozen out of MTA meetings. Moses quit in disgust. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 9 07:17:20 2018, in response to Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by andy on Wed Mar 7 19:21:10 2018. Well, for better or worse, this corporate structure has, to my understanding, lasted longer than any other (BoT, IRT, BRT/BMT, independent NYCTA) that controlled the subways. (Railroads another story)We complaint about it, often with good reason- but it has stood the test of time. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 9 13:05:20 2018, in response to Re: Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 9 07:17:20 2018. inertia. or, if you prefer, enough patronage/graft to sustain support of the oligopoly. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Mar 9 15:19:45 2018, in response to Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by andy on Wed Mar 7 19:21:10 2018. You forgot the Erie Lackamoney as well...(WOH) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Mar 9 15:27:23 2018, in response to Re: Andy's Almanac - March 1 (a little late, sorry), posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 9 07:17:20 2018. Sure, it has lasted a lot longer. If you overcharged NYCTA and LIRR bus and train riders, as well as charging those outrageous tolls on the TB&TA, you would last a very long time too! plus, the other monies they get. Spoken like a true Company Man!!! |
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