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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018 Tuscarora Almanac – January 1, 1960 – The Book of First Runs Yonkers, New York Yonkers Railroad Company The Yonkers Railroad Company changes its name to the Yonkers Transit Corporation. Source: New York Division Bulletin /October, 1991, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – January 1, 1969 – The Book of First Runs New Haven, Connecticut Penn Central Transportation Company The Penn Central Transportation Company takes over the operations of the New Haven Railroad by order of the Interstate Commerce Commission. Tuscarora Almanac – January 1, 1990 – The Book of Last Runs New York City Transit Authority Most free transfers between subway and buses are discontinued. The only two remaining are at Rockaway Parkway-Canarsie to the B-42 and at 3rd Avenue-149th Street to the Bx-55. Tuscarora Almanac – January 1, 2017 – The Book of First Runs Manhattan, New York New York City Transit Authority – Division B The first section of the Second Avenue Subway finally opened today. The first northbound originated at 57th Street on the northbound express track A-4.The consist was 9108-12 and 9113-17. The train was held at 63rd Street for several minutes. Once we resumed our journey we passed the first southbound train at 72nd Street. The consist of the first southbound train was 8957-53 and 8848-52. Many people were there railfans and normal folks alike and everyone seemed to be having a good time. Two handouts were available. A “Second Avenue Subway Grand Opening” map. This is larger than the regular map. One side displays the city wide subway maps and a blowup of the midtown area. The other side feature photo and artworks from the new subway and the old els. Also available was a flyer for the new “Q” service. In addition to myself Sub-Chat was represented by Bill Newkirk, Fred G and Wakefield –East 241, Union Turnpike, Allan, Catfish 44, William Padron, R32_3672, HenryR32#3730. If any other were there please let me known and I will add your name to roll. Thanks to Henry and William for the consist of the first southbound train. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 1 07:49:42 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. They still had grand opening maps at the 86th St. station as late as October! I managed to obtain a copy. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jan 1 09:01:43 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. I was on the first n/b that originated from 57/7. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 10:05:08 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jan 1 09:01:43 2018. Bill: I added your name to the list. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by andy on Mon Jan 1 10:13:06 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. I was on then first NB train to 96th St. Took it from Coney Island. By the time we reached Atlantic Ave. the train had a rush hour load. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Jan 1 10:40:13 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. Wow a whole year has passed since the first section of the Second Ave subway opened! Time does fly! |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 12:46:15 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by andy on Mon Jan 1 10:13:06 2018. Andy: I added your name to the list. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 1 12:52:57 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Jan 1 10:40:13 2018. Let's hope they can at least START Phase Two in the not-too-distant future! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 1 17:17:07 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. Notice the NH on the bottom by the boot. Subliminal maybe??:)
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jan 1 18:23:29 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 1 17:17:07 2018. With those looks, red flag unnecessary. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jan 1 18:40:49 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 1 17:17:07 2018. having been a passenger on all three both before and after, I remember cheering when alter Cronkhite announced the bankruptcy filing. If capitalism has any legitimacy, public humiliation and hopefully dismemberment is the desired punishment for stupidity and hostility to customers. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Jan 1 18:45:04 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. It is Union Tpke. Apparently there was an older user with a handle titled "Union Turnpike." I don't want any confusion. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 1 19:28:23 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jan 1 18:40:49 2018. Yep. Penn Central did everything to chase the passenger away. In addition, they chased all the freight traffic out of Manhattan. An example, Anhaueser Busch's Newark Brewery couldn't keep up with the new demand of their suds in the NYC area with the demise of Schaefer & Rheingold's popularity. They wanted to ship their beer in from out of state brewerys to the PC's 60 st team tracks. They guaranteed the railroad an average of 1000 carloads a month.Penn Central turned them down. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 21:43:31 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Jan 1 18:45:04 2018. Union: I wasn't aware of the difference. I will correct the original.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jan 1 22:23:32 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 1 12:52:57 2018. I haven't heard a word about a starting date for the 125th St extension. Has anyone out there heard anything? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jan 1 22:28:45 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 1 17:17:07 2018. Since that's not an actual ad, the intentions of the person who made this on the deviant ART site may have been quite deliberate in that regard and meant to be noticed. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jan 1 22:30:31 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. Re the 1990 entry: didn't a transfer also remain at the other end of the Bx55, at Gun Hill Road? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 1 23:48:19 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jan 1 22:23:32 2018. They are at work as we speak, but it's all behind the scenes stuff.I'm looking for that first shovel contract to get done. Also, from what I understand, the whole line supposed to be done by 2030...with phase 2 starting 2019. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Jan 2 02:04:26 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 1 23:48:19 2018. Hmmm.....I'm running outta time.....that getting old thing ya know! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 2 11:05:07 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Jan 2 02:04:26 2018. Me too. I was hoping a ride to 125 before I get put out to pasture. Not looking good. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 2 20:05:06 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 1 23:48:19 2018. There's an existing, 10-block tunnel segment to go along with the one that was tied into the section that is now open. And it will still take 11 years? I find that hard to believe. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Jan 2 21:32:11 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jan 1 22:30:31 2018. Dan: The free transfer was only retained at 149th Street. Although bus service to Gun Hill Road ran at all times most of the buses were shortlined at Fordham Road. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 2 22:22:19 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 2 20:05:06 2018. Rumor has it they're going to ignore that 10 block section because there's no way to build the 116th st station if they use it. Probably why there was originally not going to be a 116th st station.They could just fill that center trackway (it is a 3 track tunnel) with a platform, should be incredibly cheap. But what do I know... |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 3 12:19:45 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 2 22:22:19 2018. you are demonstrating your poor understanding of the economics driving the project. Actually using what is already there does not offer enough opportunities for graftl thus cannot be done. |
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Posted by Mysterious2train on Wed Jan 3 14:04:12 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 2 22:22:19 2018. That rumor is wrong. Part of the tunnel will simply be demolished and rebuilt to include the 116th St station.The MTA always planned to use the tunnel between 110th and 120th Sts as part of Phase 2. I'm not sure where this rumor they wouldn't started. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Jan 3 14:37:23 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 2 22:22:19 2018. They are not ignoring the 10 block section (110th - 119th St.) that was already constructed by cut and cover. However, they will have to make some modifications to it due to the fact that it was not built with the intention of having a 116th St. Station. Apparently additional revisions (like possibly expanding that portion of the tunnel segment where the 116th St. Station will be) need to be made to that station besides placing a center platform over the center track way (as I imagine that would be a narrower platform based on the width of the track even if it had a small walkway for maintenance as I believe was originally intended).Later on, in Phase 4,they plan to ignore the segment under and around Confucius Plaza (and the so-called provision behind the walls at Grant Street) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 3 20:53:58 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 3 12:19:45 2018. Heh, I figure they would prefer to charge for a new tunnel, do nothing the first four years, and say they're more than halfway done when asked. But you're right. Materials need to be purchased at inflated prices, equipment needs to be rented at inflated prices, it's pretty hard to graft money when you don't have any bills to pay... |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 3 20:59:55 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Q4 on Wed Jan 3 14:37:23 2018. I knew all around the Phase 4 concessions (and I'm fairly certain the whole phase will never be built anyway). The 116th st one I read in a few blog-style articles and on some Youtube comments, but I can't seem to find anywhere. In any event I hope they really are going to use the tunnel and just put in side platforms (heh, they can even keep the maintenance pit). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 3 21:43:28 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jan 3 12:19:45 2018. And yet you believe the government would do a better job running the economy alone than with the invisible hand of the market. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 4 03:21:50 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Q4 on Wed Jan 3 14:37:23 2018. What I would do there is make 116th the only SAS station with side platforms. That allows for the third track to be kept. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 4 04:01:49 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. Also on January 1, 1966:A Transit Strike that would last for 10 days hit just after people celebrated New Year's in Times Square. That strike would eventually usher in New York's Taylor Law a year later. |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Jan 4 08:31:04 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 3 20:59:55 2018. Even with side platforms, the tunnel segment around 116th would have to be enlarged.Back in the late 90's, when this reiteration of the SAS project was being planned, I recall seeing in planning and environmental documents that were made available an alternative that did have a scheme to not use part of the existing segment. This alternative had the tunnel diverting after the 106th St. Station, cutting diagonally under private property until making it to the 125th St. Station. This totally bypassed much, if not all of the 110th St. to 119th St. segment and left no possibility for a 116th St. Station. This alternative was rejected early on. It is possible this is what was being referred to. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 4 13:32:38 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 4 04:01:49 2018. Up till that time there was a similar law called Condon - Wadlin which had similar but less severe penalties but those were discretionary and not always applied. The Taylor Law which replaced it made the penalties mandatory and more severe. |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jan 4 15:02:54 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 4 04:01:49 2018. First day of the John Lindsay administration. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 4 16:59:57 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jan 4 15:02:54 2018. Ah yes, Mayor Lindsley! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 4 17:53:23 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 4 16:59:57 2018. Mayor Lindsley v/s "Red" Mike Quill. He was often called that...but not to his face."...and the Judge can Drop Dead in his black robes" What a memorable quote. You don't see union leaders like that anymore. Unfortunately it was Mike who dropped dead about a month or so later. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 4 19:07:34 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 4 16:59:57 2018. Or as he was referred on Batman, Mayor Linseed. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 4 23:52:49 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 4 19:07:34 2018. But the Batman names were sort of tongue in cheek like Mayor Linseed and Governor Stonefellow since the Gotham of the Batman series was more or less NYC. Quill’s mispronunciation was intended to be vicious. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Jan 5 00:45:07 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 2 11:05:07 2018. And to think all this stuff was first proposed....how many years ago? |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Jan 5 01:07:57 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 4 17:53:23 2018. Wow...I remember all of that. 52 yrs ago. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Jan 5 01:10:07 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 4 23:52:49 2018. He was a charachter Mike Quill. I renenber him on the news ripping up a court injunction.The guy had balls and fought for his people. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 5 15:47:31 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Jan 5 00:45:07 2018. If the SAS had been built as originally planned, the NYCTS map would look a lot different. |
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Posted by boliqua2 on Fri Jan 5 16:17:37 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Jan 1 07:38:57 2018. I was there Adam P on the first trip from 57th St. in the first car |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jan 5 19:47:08 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Jan 4 15:02:54 2018. Quill disliked Lindsay even before Jan 1st. He had little respect for a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant from the Silk Stocking District. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jan 5 21:20:13 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Jan 5 01:07:57 2018. Yeah me too. I was a freshman in high school & needed bus & subways to get there. I lived by the Flushing line & every once and a while I'd hear a train go by & worry that the strike was settled. Only later I learned that supervision were running trains to keep signals, switches & rail from rusting too much and ready for service in case of a sudden settlement. It was fun 'till I had to make up lost time during the Easter break |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jan 6 21:50:31 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jan 5 21:20:13 2018. I was attending Queens College that year and it was the only branch of the City University that opened during the strike and I had to get there because it was also finals week. Going to school I took a taxi but coming home I took advantage of the special bus service that the college was running to both the Jamaica and Flushing stations of the LIRR. Depending on which bus came first. I would go to either Flushing or Jamaica and take the LIRR to Penn Station. I lived in Wash Hts at the time so when I got to Penn I walked to Port Auth Bus term, took whatever bus was going to the GWB and changed for a bus to the GWB Bus Terminal which was only a short walk to my apartment. I probably could have gone to school the same way in the reverse direction but since it was finals week I doin’t want to take the chance being late so I took the taxis. If it had just been a week of normal classes I probably would have cut but fortunately I didn't have exams every day during the strike so it wasn’t so bad. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Jan 7 14:22:18 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by randyo on Sat Jan 6 21:50:31 2018. I thought you said you just started working for the TA at that time. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 7 18:39:24 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by VictorM on Sun Jan 7 14:22:18 2018. No. I started working for the TA in August of that year(1966). |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Jan 7 20:25:32 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 7 18:39:24 2018. OK. I remember one time you mentioned how newly hired probationary employees were handled during the strike. I assumed you were one of them. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 7 22:16:14 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for January 1, posted by VictorM on Sun Jan 7 20:25:32 2018. I don’t recall specifically mentioning anything about newly hired probies. What I did mention was the difference in the penalties between the Condon-Wadlin Law in effect in 1966 as opposed to the Taylor Law which replaced it a year later. |
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