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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 17:12:36 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 25 15:55:03 2017. What a stupid post. SMDH. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 25 18:19:30 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 10:50:59 2017. Th crosses are not battle flags. Why would they put battle flags at Times Square? Intersections make more sense. As far as not having the proper angle, there is something called artistic license. Also they needed stars to look like the Confederate flag which they did not have. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 25 18:20:52 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 17:12:36 2017. Yes, just as stupid as removing the statue from Columbus Circle. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Aug 25 18:31:36 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:07:21 2017. italianstallion said, "The NY Times's affinity for the Confederacy was well-known. It was reflected in editorials, among other things." If that is indeed true, I'm sure that you can point to a whole series of editorials - with dates and editions - and to post them here. Mike |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 18:37:31 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 25 18:19:30 2017. We've explained in detail why they'd put Battle Flags in Times Square.If they really were intersections, why those colors? Those tiles are all monochromatic, so they would not have stars. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 18:37:59 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 25 18:20:52 2017. No, more stupid, although that would be stupid. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:44:15 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 10:50:59 2017. Huh?? Just because they put that design at one intersection station doesn't mean they would at all!!! How ridiculous!! Many stations had unique design. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:45:27 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 18:37:31 2017. But doesn't mean they had to or did! You can come up with all kinds of reasons after the fact. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:45:46 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 10:51:42 2017. Oh stop it. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:47:42 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Fri Aug 25 18:31:36 2017. Its completely ridiculous at this point. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:16:21 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:44:15 2017. And the design at Times Square uniquely used Confederate flags. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:16:55 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:45:27 2017. Oh please. The evidence is staring you right in the face and you choose to ignore it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:17:51 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:45:46 2017. Nilet is right about you. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 00:38:31 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 18:37:31 2017. If it was a Confederate flag, where are the stars. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 26 01:55:41 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 00:38:31 2017. Ain't any stars. It bears resemblance to one of those European saltires if anything. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 26 01:56:33 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 25 22:44:15 2017. He's Niletting. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 03:26:06 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:07:21 2017. Not convinced |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:44:02 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:16:21 2017. Nowhere is that said, aside from the leftist opinion article |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:45:13 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:16:55 2017. There is no evidence, except for manufacturing it out of circumstances. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:47:18 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 00:38:31 2017. They had wverydetailed mosaic when the re we're symbols. Examples all over the system. These are just geometric patterns |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:49:25 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 26 01:56:33 2017. If they wanted flags there there would be detailed mosaics, just like all the other station with such. These are just geometric patterns. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:50:20 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:17:51 2017. Because I refuse to believe your conspiracy theory. Lol. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 07:33:07 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:44:02 2017. You really have lost it. I'm not convinced the tiles memorialize Ochs, but there is nothing leftist about this article.The writer is a historian specializing in the Civil War. He's not making any political points, and he wrote it in 2012. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:05:56 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 00:16:55 2017. You have a very vivid imagination. Does that come from your liberal guilt over your white privilege? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 09:09:06 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:45:13 2017. There is plenty of evidence. I would agree that it's not conclusive. But you have to be blind not to see the evidence. And you have absolutely no evidence that historian David Jackowe has a left-wing bias. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 26 09:09:32 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 18:37:59 2017. I am glad we agree on something. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:35:19 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 09:09:06 2017. What evidence? Please be specific. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:35:20 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 09:09:06 2017. What evidence? Please be specific. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:36:52 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:49:25 2017. Truth. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 10:04:38 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:35:19 2017. Read Jackowe's article. He cites evidence. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:27:02 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 00:38:31 2017. Those are all single color tiles. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:27:35 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:47:18 2017. Most flags without coats of arms and such are just geometric patterns. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:34:41 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:49:25 2017. You are such a hypocrite. You are pulling that claim (that they would make detailed mosaics) straight out of your ass, and claiming that evidence that is shoved right in your face and is based on actual facts is not conclusive.How about posting some evidence of your spurious claim that they would have used what you consider to be "detailed mosaics?" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:35:44 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 06:50:20 2017. It is not at all a "conspiracy theory." Who were the conspirators? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:37:32 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:05:56 2017. I'm not guilty over my white privilege. White people decided that my people are considered white and I appreciate the benefit I've thus received. My people have suffered enough to earn it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:37:51 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 26 09:05:56 2017. I'm not guilty over my white privilege. White people decided that my people are considered white and I appreciate the benefit I've thus received. My people have suffered enough to earn it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 26 12:14:58 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 26 09:09:32 2017. Meh. Get back to blog pimping. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Aug 26 13:12:03 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 09:09:06 2017. Here are some simple questions.As every transit fan KNOWS there are THREE IRT 42nd Street Times Square stations. There's the one that opened in 1904 for the original IRT subway that went directly through the basement of the New York Times Building. One would expect if there was an intent to "memorialize Adolph S. Ochs" then would not the FIRST Times Square station have a clear direct stated reference to this man? Look at the original walls of the Times Square Shuttle station tile walls. Look at them in close up. See any references however slight to the Confederacy? (I don't - but you can try to convince me.) http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?144122 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?111630 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80891 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45887 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45747 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?8178 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?85984 Look at the Times Square #7 tile walls. Look at them in close up. This station opened in 1917, at the same time as the #1, #2, #3 platforms above it. See any references however slight to the Confederacy? (I don't - but you can try to convince me.) http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?82954 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?50218 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?27187 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?22185 If one is going to use Astor Place as a reference, one would note that the tile references and beaver motif were ALL OVER the original station, and well documented in many places. In the case of Adolph S. Ochs - why are the only references located in a Civil War History website? Look at the #1, #2 and #3 platforms to the Times Square station that opened in 1917. If there was an intent to "memorialize Adolph S. Ochs" would not the patterns of tiles be CONSISTENT through-out the whole station? http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141787 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?136860 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?127821 Look at the tile work in close up. http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?98609 If there was an intent to "memorialize Adolph S. Ochs" would not the "Confederacy tile motif" be a prominent feature of the station, that was reflected in future work done at the station? http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78466 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78463 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?47556 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46117 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?8185 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?40231 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?248 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?8174 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78454 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78452 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78457 http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?44097 ---------- I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The supposed "connection" of Adolph S. Ochs and Confederacy to the TILE WORK at the Times Square station rests on a very SLIM REED. There has been NO CONSISTENT VERIFIABLE PROOF OF SUCH A CONNECTION OR DESIGN INFLUENCE! You can try to convince of your argument - if you want to. No one has pointed to any of the writings of Squire Vickers, or statements attributes to him, or direct quotes from him about his influences and work on the Times Square station. As the designer and master architect of the subways, with the various documentaries and other works about him - you would think that somebody - somewhere would have written down and saved his thoughts on this station, as well as his thoughts on the other multiple subway stations he designed. When one's only source of conjecture is a Civil War history web-site, and the New York Post - being highly skeptical is in order. Mike |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Aug 26 14:29:20 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:07:18 2017. The X interesction is not even at 42nd St. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:38:10 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 09:09:06 2017. Any station with specific decoration mosaics, were pretty specific and ornate. Not small random small geometric patterns. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:40:50 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Sat Aug 26 13:12:03 2017. Exactly!!. They are all direct, large, and specific ornate mosaics.They were never subliminal, but right in your face. These ate nothing more than random small geometric design, just as many stations had in the not prominent locations. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Aug 26 14:41:01 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 03:26:06 2017. Come on, Al, you know better. This editorial is from 1860. We are talking about Ochs's stewardship of the Times. Ochs bought the Times in 1896. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:41:40 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 10:04:38 2017. There's no evidence, and no other station had small decoration that meant anything, like this. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:43:06 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:27:35 2017. Of course, but what other station had mdecoration that had any reference to anything, that wasn't large and prominent, and obvious, throughout the station. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:44:20 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:34:41 2017. What other station had small mosaics like this, that meant anything, that were tge large standard mosaics/bas reliefs prominent in the whole station? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:44:48 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:34:41 2017. What other station had small mosaics like this, that meant anything, that werent the large standard mosaics/bas reliefs prominent in the whole station? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Aug 26 14:44:49 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Fri Aug 25 18:31:36 2017. Geez louise, Michael - it's right there in the history article YOU posted:"Although he spent the second half of his life in New York City, Adolph Ochs never forgot his Southern roots. Raised in Knoxville, Tenn., he had cut his teeth as a publisher of the Chattanooga Times, which he acquired when he was only 20 years old. It was not until 1896, following his purchase of the foundering New York Times, that he moved to New York. Years later, he would be honored by the New York Southern Society for a lifetime of “unusual achievements in the perpetuation of the history and traditions of the South” and for having “striven on the side of the angels for supporting with unique zeal and power the highest ideals and traditions of the Southern States.” He donated to establish Confederate cemeteries in Tennessee; to fund the United Confederate Veterans’ reunions; and to establish the Chickamauga & Chattanooga National Military Park. He ran EDITORIALS and commemorative and pictorial editions dedicated to Confederate veterans’ activities. But Ochs’ reverence for the South is best captured in his response to a 1927 controversy. Falsely accused by a Georgia newspaper of trying to thwart Stone Mountain from acquiring adjacent parkland, Ochs protested in an EDITORIAL citing his longstanding dedication to Dixie: “I concede to no newspaper publisher in the South a more loyal, sincere, enthusiastic and industrious advocacy of the best interests, welfare and prosperity of the South than I have shown in the Chattanooga Times and The New York Times. I am confident that all to whom I am known will attest that the South, its interests and its welfare have been and are part of my religion and profession and hobby.” When Ochs died in 1935, the UDC sent a pillow embroidered with the Confederate flag to be placed in his coffin." |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:46:34 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 26 11:35:44 2017. Because no other station had small mosaics like this that weren't large obvious mosaics that meant anything? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 26 14:47:30 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 07:33:07 2017. So what? It's not a new conspiracy theory. It's even been discussed here in the past, before the current controversy |
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Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 14:49:10 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Sat Aug 26 14:41:01 2017. No, I misunderstood your point. I thought you meant while there was one. |
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