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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 22 17:04:39 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jun 21 15:34:54 2017.

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Does not the museum in its entirety technically belong to the NYCT as well.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 22 17:06:41 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 21 09:40:33 2017.

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The only other car that can show the public what an R-10 looked like as delivered is 1575.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 22 18:40:35 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 22 13:57:31 2017.

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Do you know the current status of poor 1300 that broke down last year?

I heard from a trusted source that's she's resting comfortably at 207th St yard.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R36ML Museum Cars and Steeplecab 6 being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 22 18:41:42 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R36ML Museum Cars and Steeplecab 6 being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 22 14:01:43 2017.

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Half the people on those platforms were too young to remember those cars- the other half didn't even live in the USA, when they were in service!

And probably 100% of them never saw a steeple cab engine.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 22 18:46:02 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jun 20 15:27:30 2017.

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William A. Padron = The Pope of the R-10's lol

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 22 18:48:21 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 22 16:56:08 2017.

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As a former M/M, the main objection I had to the R-27/30 cars was the heavy spring tension on the deadmans’ buttons of the WH master controllers.

LuchAAA has a fixation about R-27's. Let's see if he agrees with you or not.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jun 22 19:42:19 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 22 18:48:21 2017.

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Holding down that heavy controller made a motorman outta ya!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 22 23:42:40 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jun 21 10:08:39 2017.

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same for the Hi-V's: 3352 & 3662 left from an original fleet of 675 motors. :(

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Re: VIDEO: R36ML Museum Cars and Steeplecab 6 being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by South FERRY on Fri Jun 23 00:56:10 2017, in response to VIDEO: R36ML Museum Cars and Steeplecab 6 being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 22 01:21:21 2017.

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Thank YOU for all the efforts!!! A+++!!!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by ren on Fri Jun 23 01:32:29 2017, in response to VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Jun 20 14:42:53 2017.

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Were all these cars being taken to 207th Street Yard for restoration? I've heard both R-10s were in not that great shape. Could they be restored in time for next month's Coney Island nostalgia ride?

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Re: VIDEO: R36ML Museum Cars and Steeplecab 6 being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 23 07:28:54 2017, in response to VIDEO: R36ML Museum Cars and Steeplecab 6 being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jun 22 01:21:21 2017.

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Thank you thank you.

The Slants were gloriously loud! And I think the silver and blue "MTA Look" is gorgeous when clean. I know many will disagree (which is OK), but that's my opinion.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 23 07:37:43 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by ren on Fri Jun 23 01:32:29 2017.

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Could they be restored in time for next month's Coney Island nostalgia ride?

No way, I would say months or a year or so.

I would doubt that restoration of these cars be give a green light.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 23 13:57:24 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jun 22 23:42:40 2017.

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And coincidentally, those cars are representative of the oldest model Hi-Vs.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by joe c on Fri Jun 23 15:52:49 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by ren on Fri Jun 23 01:32:29 2017.

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They were likely moved to 207th St Yard for storage.they were stored in the TM tunnels before they were moved.



til next time

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by ren on Fri Jun 23 19:03:15 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 23 07:37:43 2017.

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Why wouldn't they be restored? Wouldn't they make a fantastic addition to TOMM?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 06:03:21 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by ren on Fri Jun 23 19:03:15 2017.

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Why wouldn't they be restored? Wouldn't they make a fantastic addition to TOMM?

I didn't say they wouldn't be restored, I simply said it would be very time consuming to make them road worthy. So they wouldn't be running any time soon.

Also the current climate of breakdowns especially some issues with R-46's would make restoration of the R-10's a lesser priority.

I may be wrong about the above comment, but I still would like to see both R-10's restored to running condition.

Bill Newkirk



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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by tramrunner on Sat Jun 24 06:14:38 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 06:03:21 2017.

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And when will it be possible to see or time TOMM?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 09:59:18 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by tramrunner on Sat Jun 24 06:14:38 2017.

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And when will it be possible to see or time TOMM?

Sunday July 30, 2017 - Leaving from 96th St & 2nd ave.

BEACH BOUND: CONEY ISLAND

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jun 24 12:47:44 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by joe c on Fri Jun 23 15:52:49 2017.

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Yes, all the museum cars that were there in storage [R-10 #3184-3189, R-17 #6609, R-32 #3352-3353, R-36 ML #9542-9543 and the SBK locomotive #6] in that tunnel [A2 east of the TM] for a considerable long time. They are now up there at 207th Street Yard, while the R-42 #4572-4573 is currently a placeholder there for the D-Types.

-William A. Padron
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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jun 24 12:51:04 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 09:59:18 2017.

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I doubt that the R-10's will be seen on the TOMM for this year, as both of them have much work on them. Maybe next year in 2018, with the cars' 70th Anniversary looming up and about? Possibly, but I am reserving my own hopes yet on that one!

-William A. Padron
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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 18:38:05 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jun 24 12:51:04 2017.

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I doubt that the R-10's will be seen on the TOMM for this year, as both of them have much work on them.

Agreed, lotsa work to be done on those two cars.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Jun 25 04:38:49 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 18:38:05 2017.

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MTA probably thew away all the parts necessary to fix them. With all those SMEE's that got tossed into the reef, and none of those parts would have worked?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jun 25 04:43:37 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Jun 25 04:38:49 2017.

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Usable parts were removed before reefing. They are being used to keep the R32/42 alive, as well as work cars and the TOMC 'fleet'.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jun 25 12:03:27 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 24 18:38:05 2017.

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They aren't in as bad shape as you may think, especially 3184.



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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by collision post on Sun Jun 25 15:59:23 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jun 25 12:03:27 2017.

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3184 is definitely suffering from long term sit-itis and it appears from the tow up to 207th St. that none of the systems are working. Time is short to get them running and Road Tested. Maybe the aces at 207th Street can pull off another miracle!

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jun 25 17:26:20 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 21 05:54:16 2017.

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I was driving up the Deegan this morning and spotted it parked alongside the barn.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Jun 25 22:23:03 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 22 17:04:39 2017.

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That's what I always thought.


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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 26 14:50:02 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jun 25 04:43:37 2017.

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Certain R-21 and 22 cars were retrofitted as work motors and had their original ME-42 brake valves replaced by ME-43 brake valves. The master controllers were also replaced so that if there we not sufficient ME-42 brake valves available, the cab controls can be replaced by the parts that are currently available without compromising the external appearance of the cars

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 26 16:21:06 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 22 18:40:35 2017.

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Didn't it drop an armature?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 26 19:13:18 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 26 16:21:06 2017.

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Didn't it drop an armature?

Something to that affect.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Jun 26 19:57:49 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 26 14:50:02 2017.

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I believe you are talking about the revenue collectors. ALL of the signal Dolly work cars had the original equipment their controllers and their brake valves

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 27 15:13:45 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Jun 26 19:57:49 2017.

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Not just the revenue collectors, but the garbage pickups as well.

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by ren on Wed Jun 28 14:17:36 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by collision post on Sun Jun 25 15:59:23 2017.

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I have heard that 3189 (the blue R-10) has no seats or anything of the like. If true, how would they find replacements for those things?

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Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jun 28 14:33:31 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by ren on Wed Jun 28 14:17:36 2017.

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Yeah, when I saw #3189 ten years ago at the TM, it was missing the seats inside there, plus other considerable amount of hardware as well. Lots of luck in finding or manufacturing from scratch the replacement parts for them!

-William A. Padron
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UPDATE - Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jul 5 13:33:41 2017, in response to Re: VIDEO: R10 Museum Cars being transferred to 207th St Yard, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Jun 24 12:47:44 2017.

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Based upon my own viewing over what is at 207th Street Yard yesterday (7/4/2017), R-10 #3184 should be inside the facility now, while #3189 is outside the barn, coupled with SBK locomotive #6, R-1 #103 and WFLV #5655. All the other museum cars as transferred are also outside in the yard and coupled together of sorts (i.e. R-17 #6609, R-32 #3352-3353 and R-36 #9542-9543), and as visible as watching from the University Heights Bridge.

Also, R-6 #1300 is outside the motor shop, and the museum cars used in this year's "Parade of Trains" (the AB's, the D's and R-1/9's #381-401-1000-1802), except the BRT elevated cars (#1404-1273-1407), were outside the barn, and are visible from the IRT #1 line at the 207th Street-10th Avenue elevated station (or when passing by while riding an uptown #1 train).

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