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A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 21 19:26:29 2017

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Statue removed

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 19:54:30 2017, in response to A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 21 19:26:29 2017.

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The pussification of society.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by italianstallion on Sun May 21 20:36:08 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 19:54:30 2017.

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Sorta like German society was pussified when Hitler statues were removed.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 21 20:56:14 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by italianstallion on Sun May 21 20:36:08 2017.

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Yes! and the Stalins, Francos, and others. In my case it will be getting rid of statues of Kemal Ataturk and all of his henchmen.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 20:57:09 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by italianstallion on Sun May 21 20:36:08 2017.

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Well..... LOOK AT Germanistan these days.

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Re: A different Tivoli Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 21 21:12:57 2017, in response to A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 21 19:26:29 2017.

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Time to revert to the original name as well.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 21 21:13:36 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 21 20:56:14 2017.

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The Young Turks perpetrated the Armenian Genocide.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by K. Trout on Sun May 21 21:54:07 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 19:54:30 2017.

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Anyone in support of the statue is a sore loser. They lost the war. It was 152 years ago. Time to get over it!

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 22:23:50 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by K. Trout on Sun May 21 21:54:07 2017.

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That's NOT what this was about. This is about our pussified, snowflake, eunoch society where EVERYONE, except for a few, ix odfended at this, offended at that.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Dave on Sun May 21 22:39:31 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by italianstallion on Sun May 21 20:36:08 2017.

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Did you know there's a statute of Vladimir Lenin in Seattle? He killed how many millions of people?

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by K. Trout on Sun May 21 23:00:39 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 22:23:50 2017.

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You're offended that it was taken down! Projection much? Fucking conservative snowflakes are triggered by the smallest things!

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 21 23:35:56 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 21 21:13:36 2017.

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I am aware who the killers were, thank you.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 21 23:37:36 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Dave on Sun May 21 22:39:31 2017.

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actually very few. had a massive stroke and was succeeded before his death by Stalin.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 22 01:32:39 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Dave on Sun May 21 22:39:31 2017.

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Libs are heartless.



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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by 3-9 on Mon May 22 04:48:08 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 21 22:23:50 2017.

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I think it's the opposite. It's high time we stood up to the people who still honor those who fought for slavery, and take down those symbols from our public spaces.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 05:13:37 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by K. Trout on Sun May 21 23:00:39 2017.

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I'm not offended that the statues were taken down! The Civil War Confederates have nothing to do with me.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 05:14:24 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by 3-9 on Mon May 22 04:48:08 2017.

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My whole point is slavery happened. There's no denying it.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Dave on Mon May 22 07:32:09 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun May 21 23:37:36 2017.

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You're correct, my mistake. Still, Lenin had 30,000 dissidents killed.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 07:59:12 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 05:14:24 2017.

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So why glorify it?

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by AlM on Mon May 22 08:35:13 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Dave on Sun May 21 22:39:31 2017.

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If it's on city property and the city government decides to remove it, what would be the issue?




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Re: A different Tivoli Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:10:28 2017, in response to Re: A different Tivoli Circle in New Orleans, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 21 21:12:57 2017.

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Which is?

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:15:01 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Dave on Mon May 22 07:32:09 2017.

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How many did the Czar kill? I don't agree with it, but at the time Leninist communism was at least a defensible alternative to authoritarian monarchist rule.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:16:11 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by K. Trout on Sun May 21 21:54:07 2017.

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By the standards of the 1940's, the Confederate leadership would have been tried and executed for crimes against humanity for operating a massive forced labour system.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:26:38 2017, in response to A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 21 19:26:29 2017.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 10:13:13 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Dave on Mon May 22 07:32:09 2017.

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How many hundreds of thousands did the Confederate Army under Lee's command kill?

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Re: A different Tivoli Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 10:13:45 2017, in response to Re: A different Tivoli Circle in New Orleans, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:10:28 2017.

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See subject line.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 10:20:24 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:16:11 2017.

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We should have done that instead of forgiving them. It seemed like the honorable Christian thing to do, but it made the Union leadership look like pussies, encouraged the Redeemers, and gave us a century of Jim Crow and Southern revisionism to this day.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 11:09:10 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 07:59:12 2017.

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Even though I'm born and raised here in New York City, I am not that naive to think that the Civil War was only based on slavery.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by AlM on Mon May 22 11:14:43 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 11:09:10 2017.

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Correct.

It was only 98% based on slavery and denial of rights based on race.

All the other issues related to manufacturing vs. agricultural economy, etc., could have been worked out.


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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 11:41:58 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 11:09:10 2017.

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It was essentially only based on slavery. You have fallen for Southern revisionism.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 22 12:04:56 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 22 11:09:10 2017.

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Secession was based exactly on that. There was no other issue.

But Robert E. Lee was so respected by the North that Lincoln wanted him as a Union general. Lee sided with the South because that is the side Virginia took.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by italianstallion on Mon May 22 12:07:17 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 10:20:24 2017.

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+1

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by K. Trout on Mon May 22 21:06:36 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 22 10:20:24 2017.

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+1. Sherman didn't go far enough.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 23 04:11:09 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by AlM on Mon May 22 11:14:43 2017.

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Guess again!

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 23 08:07:36 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 23 04:11:09 2017.

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No, we're right. Revisionists are wrong.

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Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 23 14:44:53 2017, in response to Re: A different Lee Circle in New Orleans, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 22 09:16:11 2017.

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"Operating"?

Guess what ideology was coming into its own thirteen years before the start of the Civil War?

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