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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Oct 8 22:39:27 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016. Saw one car (7003?) sideswipe damage on TVwayne |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Oct 8 22:45:20 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Oct 8 22:39:27 2016. corrected - 7033. |
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Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:14:41 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016.       
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Explanation? |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:20:44 2016, in response to Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:14:41 2016. Did the passenger train or work train first derail and then the sideswipe happened since they were then too close to each otherOr... There are switches in the area. It may have been that the work train was incorrectly being switched from the westbound to the eastbound track just as the passenger train passed by Or??? |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Oct 8 23:47:15 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016. I was on the 7:34 from Jamaica to Ronkonkoma, as it was running 15 minutes late we must have passed through that spot not long before. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Oct 9 00:11:18 2016, in response to Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:14:41 2016. Safe to say 7044 is scrap, glad to hear everyone is okay though. |
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Re: Explanation? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 9 00:44:30 2016, in response to Explanation?, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:20:44 2016. Investigation will determine exactly what happened. All we know is the road train side-swiped the work train right now. We'll find out the why later. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 9 00:59:22 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016. Here is an article with details.It says there were 600 people aboard... pretty good haul for a weekend train! |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 9 07:03:01 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016. just saw a diesel with 4 cars I think, head west between deer park ave and wyandanch. reversing move, ronk to hicksville to belmont jnct to jamaica? |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 9 07:21:58 2016, in response to Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:14:41 2016. Bob: As always with the LIRR you're on top of the story. Thanks for the pictures. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 07:26:58 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 9 07:21:58 2016. Looks like several M7's get written off this time. Not PTC preventable either. See what NTSB makes of this. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by MTK52983 on Sun Oct 9 07:40:53 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 9 07:03:01 2016. LIRR suspended mainline service between Hicksville and Jamaica. Diesel service on the Central between Hicksville and Babylon. Bustitution between stations west of Hicksville and Jamaica |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 9 08:22:09 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by MTK52983 on Sun Oct 9 07:40:53 2016. gonna be a cluster phuuk they don't clear track by 4:00 |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:12:14 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016. I know it's just a coincidence but it's in the same general area between New Hyde Park and Merillon Av as the Colin Ferguson shooting.BTW, I was thinking of using Mineola today to go to the city. Guess I gotta revise my thinking. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 09:15:56 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:12:14 2016. Is this the facing siding that will be the 3rd track someday ? |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:19:19 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 09:15:56 2016. Not sure |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:21:58 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:12:14 2016. BTW, I was thinking of using Mineola today to go to the city. Guess I gotta revise my thinking.If you're going to the city, better head out to the Babylon branch. Huntington and Ronkonkoma trains go as far as Hicksville. All change for shuttle via central branch to Babylon. I believe another change at Babylon for a Babylon train to NYC. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:24:30 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 9 08:22:09 2016. gonna be a cluster phuuk they don't clear track by 4:00Tomorrow is a holiday, if that means anything. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:26:47 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 07:26:58 2016. Looks like several M7's get written off this time.After the NTSB investigation, those cars will probably stored in the back of Hillside Facility and become parts donors. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:29:36 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 9 00:59:22 2016. It says there were 600 people aboard... pretty good haul for a weekend train!A lot of attendees for ComicCon may be the reason for the turnout. Ch.7 news interviewed a father and son who stated they returned from the event. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by MTK52983 on Sun Oct 9 09:29:55 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:21:58 2016. They are also advising using Port Washington branch and Hempstead branch. Hourly service on 6-8 car Hempstead trains is going to be interesting to say the least. If they used supplemental trains between Hempstead and Penn Station that would at least make it a possible option rather than overloading the Babylon branch. You could have them leave Penn Station on the :12, which would usually be the Ronkonkoma train and that would provide approximately every half hour service since the usual Penn Station trains that connect to Hempstead train at Jamaica leave at :45 |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:31:31 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:21:58 2016. I said I was just thinking of Mineola but I'll probably do what I usually do on Sunday when the meter rules aren't in effect, that is drive to Queens Blvd at the Union Tnpk Station and take the E or the F. By the way, the Babylon line stations in the Town Of Hempstead now require a parking permit. While I live in the TOH I never got the permit. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:34:50 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Oct 9 00:11:18 2016. Safe to say 7044 is scrap, glad to hear everyone is okay though.I think at least 4 cars are done. They won't be scrapped, probably become parts donors. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:39:30 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:31:31 2016. Sorry, I thought you lived out in eastern Nassau or western Suffolk.Bill Newkirk |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Oct 9 09:43:48 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:29:36 2016. Also, there was a weekend trackwork program in effect that halved Huntington service, so the train would've been twice as full as normal. |
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Service Notice....Was: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:44:18 2016, in response to LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 22:27:57 2016. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Explanation? |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 09:55:49 2016, in response to Re: Explanation?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 9 00:44:30 2016. They say the work train violated the space of the passenger train - whatever that means. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 09:59:45 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 9 07:21:58 2016. Thanks Larry. I happen to live about a mile away so I went there as soon as I heard there was a derailment. |
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Re: Explanation? |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 9 10:05:46 2016, in response to Re: Explanation?, posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 09:55:49 2016. They say the work train violated the space of the passenger train - whatever that means. Bob: Sometimes when work is being done on one track it is necessary to take the adjacent track out of service as well. The work train may have been fouling the in-service track without realizing it. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Service Notice....Was: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 9 10:29:58 2016, in response to Service Notice....Was: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:44:18 2016. a relatively rare opportunity to see (and ride) all-day "scoot" service on the central branch. now, if the trains would make flag stops at east farmingdale, my happiness would be complete :). |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 9 10:44:32 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 09:59:45 2016. Ambulance chaser. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 11:18:28 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 9 10:44:32 2016. Interested LIRR historian. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 9 11:19:33 2016, in response to Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:14:41 2016. Yeesh. That must've been terrifying for anyone at that end of the car. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 9 11:20:46 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:24:30 2016. Not for most people. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 11:27:06 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:26:47 2016. See if they increase the first M-9 tranche by 4 cars. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 9 11:38:05 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 9 10:44:32 2016. Only if he's a lawyer! |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 11:39:57 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by MTK52983 on Sun Oct 9 09:29:55 2016. You would hope that the normally resident-only parking lots in some of the Hempstead branch stations would be opened for everyone in a situation like this. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 11:54:04 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 9 11:19:33 2016. Intermediate cars got damage too. It is not enough to stay away from the RFW (if they had one). |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 11:55:03 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:24:30 2016. I work for a university, and it is not a day off. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 9 12:05:21 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 11:55:03 2016. A lot of folks "gave up" Columbus Day in exchange for the day after Thanksgiving. |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Oct 9 13:00:07 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Oct 9 11:18:28 2016. Thanks again for the pictures! You are always on top of things LIRR! I have your website bookmarked! |
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Re: Explanation? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 9 13:03:52 2016, in response to Explanation?, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Oct 8 23:20:44 2016. Looks like a roll out. Otherwise there would have been fatalities on the work train. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 9 13:04:58 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 9 00:59:22 2016. North America railcar robustness saves the day again. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 9 13:42:05 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 9 09:24:30 2016. Weekday schedule.-w- |
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Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 9 13:48:09 2016, in response to Re: Pictures Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 11:54:04 2016. M-7s don’t have one for all practical purposes. They have something similar to what the R-160s have but there is also a metal panel that can cover it and most of the engineers use it. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Oct 9 14:59:45 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 9 09:31:31 2016. By the way, the Babylon line stations in the Town Of Hempstead now require a parking permit. While I live in the TOH I never got the permit.It's Saturday. IIRC, nobody cares about the permit on the weekends, and IIRC, Bellmore and Merrick only have limited permit parking. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Oct 9 15:01:44 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Oct 9 14:59:45 2016. Scratch that, most of the spots are now permit parking with the exception of those underneath the tracks, which means, I should get my permit too ASAP. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Oct 9 15:11:56 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 9 13:04:58 2016. North America railcar robustness saves the day again.And to think, if this was DB, this incident wouldn't happen in the first place. And we'd have 4 tph off-peak with trains that aren't slow as fuck to accelerate. As somebody that's tempted to go buy a Mazda Miata, I'm going to take my chances with the ET 430s over our junk. |
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Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 9 15:17:48 2016, in response to Re: LIRR accident in New Hyde Park, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Oct 9 15:11:56 2016. Actually they do have 4 TPH on weekends, or soon will. Huntington service is half hourly, Ronkonkoma is hourly with half hourly part of the day and all day when the 2nd track gets built, and there's the Oyster Bay every 2 hours.DB doesn't have 750v DC 3rd rail. |
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