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Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016

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Hi everybody,

I'm a freelance journalist in New York, beginning to work on a story about off-hour waiting areas in the city's subway system. These are the well-lit benches usually just inside the turnstiles, within eyeshot of the station agent, that are marked by large yellow signs (http://www.subwaynut.com/bmt/20d/20d12.jpg).

I'm trying to make a list of all the stations that still have these waiting areas, and I was wondering if anyone here could share if they knew where more of them are. Here's what I have so far:


On platform:
6 - Astor place
E/M - 5th Ave / 53rd St
SIR - Tottenville

Partially on platform:
6 - 51st St

Not on platform:
G - 21st St / Van Alst
D - 20th Ave, Brooklyn


Thanks for your help!
Jesse

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 21:53:14 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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Why not just ride the system and visit each station so you can confirm whether each one does or does not have the signs?

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by Fulton Frank on Thu Sep 29 22:56:45 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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You do know, Jesse, these are a vestige of the 1970's - 80's when riding the system late nights was akin to playing Russian Roulette - you could die anytime.
Today with the crowding 24/7 on most stations, coupled with lower crime rates and video monitoring, you can hang anywhere on the platform and not worry about being killed.

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 29 23:22:19 2016, in response to Re: Off-hour waiting areas, posted by Fulton Frank on Thu Sep 29 22:56:45 2016.

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So? What does that have to do with his request?

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 30 02:12:53 2016, in response to Re: Off-hour waiting areas, posted by Fulton Frank on Thu Sep 29 22:56:45 2016.

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There is also another related issue - the shorter trains of the mid-1970's.

These shorter trains meant that riders had to stand in certain places to be sure to be able to quickly board the train versus running down the platform and missing the train.

Mike


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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by jesse_coburn on Fri Sep 30 10:02:45 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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Thanks for your responses. Yes, I do know that the waiting areas were installed at a time of high crime in the subway system. And yes, I do plan to ride around looking for them on my own. I just thought that subway aficionados like you all might know where some are off the tops of your heads.

Michael549 - that's interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks.

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 30 12:18:10 2016, in response to Re: Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Fri Sep 30 10:02:45 2016.

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Good luck.

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Sep 30 14:05:56 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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Forest Hills has, and there are few stations with them on the A and C in Upper Manhattan.

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Sep 30 14:59:14 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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181st St station on the A has one on the north end of the Mezzanine level.

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 30 16:22:52 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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East Broadway has one off-platform, at the Madison St end. I believe 34th St-Herald Sq still has it on the platform. I don't think Delancey St has it anymore.

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by jesse_coburn on Fri Sep 30 18:09:44 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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All very helpful, thanks! Anyone else?

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Re: Off-hour waiting areas

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Oct 17 14:41:47 2016, in response to Off-hour waiting areas, posted by jesse_coburn on Thu Sep 29 19:48:06 2016.

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Article spotted: As Crime on the Subway Comes Down, Signs From an Earlier Era Do Too

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