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Penn Station Question

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 15:58:17 2016

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I'm coming into town on Sunday I am coming into town on NJT, and need to get to the downtown 1 without going all the way down to the LIRR main concourse, if possible. I need to refill my MetroCard, so keep that in mind.

thanks in advance!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 23 16:14:43 2016, in response to Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 15:58:17 2016.

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Where is the question?

Why is going all the way down into the lirr main concourse a problem? It's just across the way from the NJT Concourse.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 23 16:15:56 2016, in response to Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 15:58:17 2016.

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I'm coming into town on Sunday I am coming into town on NJT, and need to get to the downtown 1 without going all the way down to the LIRR main concourse, if possible. I need to refill my MetroCard, so keep that in mind.

I'm trying to figure out why you want to avoid the LIRR concourse.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 16:26:10 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 23 16:15:56 2016.

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A little hobbled from a problem I had, and trying to save steps, that's all....


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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Allan on Fri Sep 23 16:47:15 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 16:26:10 2016.

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Lou, the only way you can avoid the LIRR concourse is to exit Penn Station to the street on the 7th Av side, then walk up to W34th St and enter the subway to the downtown 1 train (or cross the street by the H & M store for the uptown 1 Train).

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 23 17:38:00 2016, in response to Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 15:58:17 2016.

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Not sure why no one has directly answered your question, but here: You can avoid it with the NJT East End Concourse (front of NJT train) and the Hilton passageway. Once in the NJT concourse, go down the steps towards the LIRR concourse but make a quick right before track 13. You can then get to the IRT's 32nd st entrance (the other end of the Tracks bar).

Image (not mine) available here, the green-ed out section is where you'd be starting:


Good luck!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 18:05:19 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 23 17:38:00 2016.

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Thanks!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 23 20:17:44 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 16:26:10 2016.

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A little hobbled from a problem I had, and trying to save steps, that's all....

After leaving the NJT terminal, there's a bank of escalators that takes you down to the LIRR concourse.

After you walk towards the IRT (1)(2)(3) fare control area, there's handicapped elevators to take you to the platform level. Metrocard machines are there to refill your card.

Bill Newkirk








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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 23 22:14:19 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Fri Sep 23 18:05:19 2016.

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Just be careful in the Hilton passageway. It is lightly used compared to other parts of the complex and I could imagine it being more prone to crime. Keep your eyes open.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Sep 24 00:15:41 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 23 22:14:19 2016.

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Depends on time of day, mainly. Sunday-Wednesday evenings (and of course all overnights) it's pretty deserted. During the daytime though it's surprisingly well patronized nowadays, and the booth is open.

Good advice though, because it is dimly lit and the IRT end is a favorite for homeless to camp out.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by MR RT on Sat Sep 24 11:15:49 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 23 17:38:00 2016.

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If you take one flight of stairs vs. two, you'll get to LIRR level vs. Amtrak level.
That puts you in the NJ Transit concourse.
Then it is a level walk (1/2 flight of stairs) into LIRR concourse to you reach the 7th Ave entrance of subway. Token booth & many MVMs are just out side.

I use NJ Transit now, so I'm familiar with NJ Transit area.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 11:48:43 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 23 22:14:19 2016.

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LOL!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Sep 25 13:47:28 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 23 20:17:44 2016.

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Do you have to show your handicapped placard to use this elevator ?
Karl

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 25 14:15:25 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Sep 25 13:47:28 2016.

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You never have to show ID to use a subway system elevator. Lots of people use them because they are pushing strollers. My wife uses them because she has bad knees, but she's not officially disabled.





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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Sep 25 14:57:37 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 23 17:38:00 2016.

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Worked like a charm - much less crowded and hectic...both ways - much appreciated!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by fset on Mon Sep 26 00:06:31 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Sep 25 14:57:37 2016.

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I have an elderly, large (obese) friend who is worried about getting from the NJT tracks (North Jersey Coast Line) to an elevator so she can get the M-34 bus across the 5th Ave.
Can you plot another simple way to do so, with maps, so i can email her.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:13:48 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 11:48:43 2016.

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Haha!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:15:00 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 23 22:14:19 2016.

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ROTFLMAO!!! And you're the guy who was too afraid to cross 31st Street midblock, right? Thanks for the laugh this morning I use the Hilton passageway all the time.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:17:28 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Sep 24 00:15:41 2016.

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No, it's not good advice. Hilton is fine.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:18:27 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Sep 25 14:57:37 2016.

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During rush hour that way can be just as crowded and hectic.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:19:30 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 23 17:38:00 2016.

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The reason no one directly answered his question was already addressed! It's because he didn't ask a question!!!!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:20:46 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by MR RT on Sat Sep 24 11:15:49 2016.

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I hardly ever use NJT and I'm familiar with "the NJ Transit area."

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 09:23:11 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 23 20:17:44 2016.

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No need to go UP from the NJT concourse to get to those escalators. Skip them. Just go DOWN or stay flat from the NJT concourse.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Mon Sep 26 11:18:24 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 25 14:15:25 2016.

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That sounds like a great idea, here in Portland we don't have these dedicated handicapped elevators. Something I never herd about. Karl

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 26 11:22:35 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Mon Sep 26 11:18:24 2016.

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Huh? What is a "dedicated handicapped elevator?"

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 26 12:17:54 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Mon Sep 26 11:18:24 2016.

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???

NYCT elevators are NOT dedicated handicapped elevators. They are for anyone who feels like using them.



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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 26 15:15:49 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Mon Sep 26 11:18:24 2016.

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Same thing at the Septa Subway/El stations with elevators, there are no restrictions.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Sep 26 16:10:03 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 26 15:15:49 2016.

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Since strollers and other things (like big packages) are allowed on the system, and absolutely don't belong on escalators, it is entirely reasonable. It is disheartening to see moron parents with their babies in strollers on escalators when elevators are available.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 26 17:32:58 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by pragmatist on Mon Sep 26 16:10:03 2016.

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Strollers on escalators are hazardous.


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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Sep 26 21:19:22 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Sep 25 14:57:37 2016.

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Glad to have helped!

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Sep 26 21:27:11 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 26 17:32:58 2016.

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We totally agree, but I wish I had a dollar for every one I have seen.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Sep 26 21:54:30 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 26 17:32:58 2016.

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depends on the stroller and the person in charge. Of late I see far too many mega sized strollers (I think of them as SUVs).
BART prohibits bikes on escalator, but allows wheeled luggage, strollers, and maintenance worker trolleys.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:03:03 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 26 17:32:58 2016.

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Why?

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by pragmatist on Tue Sep 27 07:05:51 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Sep 26 21:54:30 2016.

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Most escalators have signs or stickers indicating what should not be brought on them. BART would be an exception if they permitted strollers. Of course, if they were the small folding type and didn't have a child in them, I'm not sure it's a big deal.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Sep 27 12:43:17 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 26 12:17:54 2016.

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That's what Bill Newkirk mentioned OK ? that's why I asked. Karl

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 13:11:45 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Sep 27 12:43:17 2016.

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No, he didn't. You interpreted his use of "handicapped elevators" as "dedicated handicapped elevator." That was your confusion.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 14:01:49 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 13:11:45 2016.

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I agree with your post.

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Re: Penn Station Question

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 14:01:59 2016, in response to Re: Penn Station Question, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Sep 27 12:43:17 2016.

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No he didn't.

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