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AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016

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...As part of a larger housing/development/resiliency proposal.

Article:

Construction and engineering firm proposes creating a new Brooklyn neighborhood the size of Battery Park City


AECOM envisions building as many as 45,000 units of housing along the Red Hook waterfront and extending the No. 1 train to the area


"AECOM's plan also involves creating three new subway stations, one at Atlantic Basin next to the container terminal, another at the Red Hook Houses, one of Brooklyn's largest public-housing complexes, and a No. 1 train station that would connect to the F and G subway lines at Fourth Avenue."



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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Sep 12 16:12:57 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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LOL!

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 12 16:36:38 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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"This is meant to be a starting point for a conversation," Ward said, who estimated the cost of a No.1 train station extension at about $3 billion."

I guess part of that $3 billion dollars would include a connection to the new South Ferry station.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 12 17:20:00 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 12 16:36:38 2016.

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Assuming that the new station is deep enough to be able to connect to an underwater tunnel.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by nasadowsk on Mon Sep 12 18:13:59 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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That's nice? AECOM gonna pay for it?

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 12 18:34:18 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by nasadowsk on Mon Sep 12 18:13:59 2016.

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I believe the funding idea was addressed in the article.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Sep 12 19:06:25 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 12 18:34:18 2016.

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Obviously, none of this is real at this time, but the notion that a new tunnel come on line is not in and of itself outlandish. Other than the 63rd st tunnel, every other Brooklyn/Queens connection to Manhattan is pretty old, nothing lasts forever. That includes the WB and MB.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by FarRock on Tue Sep 13 05:07:22 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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Houston Street Tube to Williamsburg, tube to SI, 2 Av ext across the Harlem River, these should be on the table when it comes to new river tubes.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 06:55:36 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by FarRock on Tue Sep 13 05:07:22 2016.

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But how would they help this housing development proposal?

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 13 13:46:47 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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They're like JournalSquare-K-Car then, thinking that the 1 can be extended into the drink as he thought that the PATH could be extended from Hoboken back into Manhattan.

Aspects of it do remind me of this, though.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 13 21:21:51 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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I wonder why they are proposing doing it with the (1). Wouldn't it make more sense if perhaps you did it with an SAS line that could go there (maybe that's how you get the (T) into Brooklyn for example)?

Very ambitious no matter what.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Terrapin station on Tue Sep 13 21:50:03 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Sep 13 21:21:51 2016.

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Because the SAS downtown isn't built or even funded yet. The 1 is.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Think twice on Tue Sep 13 22:59:16 2016, in response to AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Sep 12 15:57:29 2016.

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If there's a bellmouth south of Whitehall Street station, maybe they'd be better off extending a revived W train to Red Hook, and add a stop at Governors Island along the way.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Sep 14 17:40:28 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by Terrapin station on Tue Sep 13 21:50:03 2016.

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Yes, but that could be a massive incentive for getting the SAS funded, especially if you can have a branch of it go to Red Hook (and maybe finally make that never-finished South 4th Street station in Brooklyn done with actual train service).

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 14 23:07:01 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Sep 14 17:40:28 2016.

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Yes, but that could be a massive incentive for getting the SAS funded,
I don't agree.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 15 19:01:27 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by randyo on Mon Sep 12 17:20:00 2016.

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If it is (and I think it could, actually) that would turn the new SF station from being a boondoggle into being a forward thinking investment. I actually want this to happen, heh.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Sep 15 19:30:08 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 15 19:01:27 2016.

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Except their plan calls for reviving the 9 train and having it branch off from the 1 between Rector and South Ferry (possibly to allow the new tunnel to not have to dodge all the other tunnels over by Bowling Green/South Ferry). The extension wouldn't go through South Ferry at all.

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Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 16 20:17:18 2016, in response to Re: AECOM to propose No. 1 train extension to Red Hook, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Sep 15 19:30:08 2016.

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D'oh! Ok, new SF is back to being pointless... oh well.

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