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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 14 12:06:29 2016, in response to SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Sun Aug 14 11:44:44 2016. There is no news. When there's news, it will be posted here. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Sun Aug 14 12:07:32 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 14 12:06:29 2016. Thank you sir! I'll assume all on schedule unless I see otherwise. |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Aug 16 14:11:43 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Sun Aug 14 12:07:32 2016. But then you know what happens when you assume..... |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:30:12 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Allan on Tue Aug 16 14:11:43 2016. Nothing wrong with his assumption. |
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Posted by bzuck on Tue Aug 16 15:55:06 2016, in response to SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Sun Aug 14 11:44:44 2016. Related to this is there a date when the W will start running again and the Q cut back to 57th street? |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Aug 16 16:39:48 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by bzuck on Tue Aug 16 15:55:06 2016. The current plan is for the W to return in November. See page 122 of this document for details. |
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Posted by Bzuck on Wed Aug 17 07:23:35 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by fdtutf on Tue Aug 16 16:39:48 2016. Thank you |
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Posted by fdtutf on Wed Aug 17 14:44:37 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Bzuck on Wed Aug 17 07:23:35 2016. You're welcome. :-) |
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Posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:30:12 2016. Just planning a trip there for the opening from GA. Hotel is cancelable but plane wont be so I want to hold off on the plane part until the date is more reliable. Thanks! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 22:17:25 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016. Well that's a whole 'nother ball game. Just drive, don't fly. That way you don't need to make concrete plans. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 17 23:03:11 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016. Can't you take Amtrak's Crescent? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 18 00:33:59 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016. Take the train.The plane IS quicker,but you'll definitely enjoy the train. |
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Posted by Caine515 on Thu Aug 18 13:38:34 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Aug 17 23:03:11 2016. The rumor....and it's been mentioned on NY1 IN Transit is 12/31/16. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Aug 18 13:41:30 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016. Are you looking to get on the first train? I ask because you can otherwise just wait for the line to actually open before planning. Even the changing of signs on platforms doesn't guarantee an immanent opening date as we learned from the 7 line. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Fri Aug 19 01:41:33 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 18 00:33:59 2016. I just may do that! |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Aug 19 02:41:07 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Caine515 on Thu Aug 18 13:38:34 2016. that's not exactly a rumor, it's what they've been aiming for as hard as possible for the last few years. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 19 11:10:18 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016. You basically would have two options:1. The Crescent: Amtrak has a far better cancellation policy than most airlines 2. Southwest Airlines: even their cheapest fares can be changed to other flights with no penalty, even an hour before departure, or converted to a voucher that is good for a year. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 19 15:30:56 2016, in response to SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Sun Aug 14 11:44:44 2016. Don't hold your breath. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 19 16:42:47 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Wed Aug 17 18:16:19 2016. My next-door neighbor, who works at the MTA HQ, said, most likely, March or April of 2017. The tunnels, tracks, stations, etc will be done by the end of this year. However, the state-of-the-art signaling that the MTA insists on, will take a while longer to get set up right, without any problems. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 20 20:46:59 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 19 16:42:47 2016. Why should the so called state of the art signaling for the SAS take any longer to install than what was installed on the Flushing Line west of T/Sq or any of the other recent installations since it is not going to be CBTC? |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sat Aug 20 20:57:19 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 19 16:42:47 2016. Why would it take that long for the signals? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Aug 20 21:40:18 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 20 20:46:59 2016. Perhaps the state of the art signaling needs lots of jury-rigging and bailing wire to connect it to the existing, non-state of the art signaling on the rest of the line. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 20 22:55:38 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Aug 20 21:40:18 2016. It didn’t on the Flushing Line or on the IND 8 Av Line. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 21 06:57:15 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 20 22:55:38 2016. It didn’t on the Flushing Line or on the IND 8 Av Line.The 8th Ave subway has CBTC ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Aug 21 13:31:33 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 20 20:46:59 2016. I get the distinct impression from my neighbor that they are expecting problems with it, after the installaton. That's all that I could get from him. By the way, he mentioned that the MTA is doing a project on park Ave. Anyone know anything about this? |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Aug 21 13:36:23 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Aug 21 13:31:33 2016. Most likely the connection from 63rd st. to Grand Central for the LIRR east side access project. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 21 14:35:49 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 19 16:42:47 2016. If true, then that buys some time for the TA to get a couple sets of the 179s cars up and running so the fleet won't have to be stretched so thin when SAS opens. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 21 16:23:32 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 21 06:57:15 2016. No, but it has state of the art conventional signaling which is what the SAS will have. |
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Posted by The silence on Sun Aug 21 18:36:55 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 19 16:42:47 2016. I had someone once insist they were going to eliminate the C and someone else insist that MTA bus was going to absorb Long Island Bus.I take everything without Mr. Prendergast's signature with a grain of salt. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 18:39:38 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 21 18:36:55 2016. That is a rule that should be followed. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 18:59:32 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 21 18:36:55 2016. Back around 1990, killing the C was a real idea floating around. The A would have gone local to 168th, and the Q left on the IND and sent to 207th. I knew someone at work who lived in Inwood at the time, who also knew of the politicing around the 1&9 skip-stop pattern. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 19:15:47 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 18:59:32 2016. I have a scan of an article that would have had either the 1 or 9 skip 125th Street. Because of local uproar it was taken away. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 19:21:32 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 19:15:47 2016. I don't think the J & Z, or predecessors the 14 & 15 nearly nearly 60 years ago, had that sort of turmoil. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 19:23:56 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 19:21:32 2016. Public officials don't care about those neighborhoods. However these communities did not complain as this was done instead of installing a third track and eliminating the S-curve, which would have required the demolition of 75 homes. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 19:36:10 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 19:23:56 2016. Yes, but 14-only "B" stop along Jamaica Avenue, like 102nd, could have raised hell anyway. Sutphin and Elderts Lane were the only A&B stops. I suppose they got off at Elderts Lane and piled onto the 15. I don't remember. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 21 19:56:30 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 18:59:32 2016. the Q left on the IND and sent to 207th.That's a lot of crossovers. 6th Ave express track onto 6th ave local track onto 8th ave local track onto 8th ave express track. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 21 19:58:16 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 21 19:56:30 2016. ?????How do you figure? It would be like the D. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 21 19:59:46 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 21 19:58:16 2016. Oh silly me. I was thinking of crossing over to 8th Ave at W 4th. Never mind. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 21 20:14:23 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 21 19:21:32 2016. The Three Stooges Division still gets no respect. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 21 21:42:12 2016, in response to SAS opening date, posted by jrr4 on Sun Aug 14 11:44:44 2016. If they live long, healthy lives, your great-great grandchildren might live long enough to ride the SAS on its opening date. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 21 21:43:43 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 21 19:59:46 2016. That would be impossible. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 21 21:48:42 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 21 18:36:55 2016. Yeah but were those someones people in the know like from NYCT Operations Planning or were they people like t/os or c/rs or even railfans who don't have a clue? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 21 21:49:24 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 21 21:42:12 2016. wrong |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 21 22:59:09 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 21 21:42:12 2016. The SAS will open when Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Aug 22 06:42:13 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 21 22:59:09 2016. he already won the Republican nomination. So that means I can ride it. What you mean is the presidential election. If he wins it, god forbid, then we are all doomed and ridership will go down, but ridership in Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver, and Mexico City will go up. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 22 06:59:50 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Aug 22 06:42:13 2016. No, that's not what he meant. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Aug 22 08:19:35 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 22 06:59:50 2016. I know, but that is not what he said. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 22 08:43:50 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Aug 22 08:19:35 2016. No, he meant what he said and it makes sense. You don't understand what he was saying. I will explain it to you later, hopefully. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 09:35:36 2016, in response to Re: SAS opening date, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 22 08:43:50 2016. No, he meant what he said and it makes sense.It makes sense as satire, not literally. |
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