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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 18 13:36:12 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jul 17 20:29:23 2016. Although the GE R-16s were worse than the WH ones, I has some WH R-16s when I worked the 4 Av Lcl that were pretty crummy also. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 18 15:11:19 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 17 19:55:32 2016. They may have been for a while, but by the time I started working for the TA, they had been replaced by conventional SMEEs and the R-11s were still on the West End Lcl. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 18 20:22:18 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 18 13:36:12 2016. Say what you want, but the R-16s were crummy as a fleet. Maybe if they had stayed on the Three Stooges Division during their entire careers, they may have fared better. Supposedly the ENY maintenance crews knew then and took care of them. IINM they did OK until they were shifted elsewhere. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jul 19 13:46:56 2016, in response to Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 2 16:18:50 2016. Is train 1763 on the Trenton Line during the PM Rush, Push Pull equipment?IDC which PP train it is, I just wanted to ride a PP train on Septa... prior to these Sliverliner V's issues I had plans for a fantrip to Philly that went - bus to Philly - Ride BSL - ride train 9745 (That was the Trenton run that used the Push Pulls priors to the SL - V issues) NJT back to NY. When I heard about the SL-V's having these issues, I called off my trip or just plan to take the bus back rather than the train. But I imagine Septa Bombardier Coaches can't be much different than Comet IV's in terms of how it feels riding them, so I could possibly still do my trip. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jul 19 15:20:57 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 18 20:22:18 2016. Even on the Eastern, they had their share of problems. One morning when I was working Tower 1, a train of R-16 on the Bway Bkln Lcl was coming into Atlantic from E/Pky when the Motor generator on a GE car exploded and a large puff red smoke came out from under the car. fortunately the train was able to continue into the Middle track at Atlantic and clear the road otherwise it would have likely blocked both the Jamaica and Canarsie lines. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 19 21:20:08 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by randyo on Tue Jul 19 15:20:57 2016. Was it another case of BMT standards to the rescue? |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Tue Jul 19 21:56:16 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 7 14:32:55 2016. Also the 44's were stripped of their trucks (GR90-tread brake) and they were placed on the R46 where they were proven successful eliminating the original Rockwell truck.WE-44 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 07:40:51 2016, in response to Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 2 16:18:50 2016. The weld |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jul 20 08:16:57 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 07:40:51 2016. Thanks for the article! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 20 08:42:59 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 07:40:51 2016. Who's responsible for that bit of corner-cutting? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jul 20 08:57:29 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 20 08:42:59 2016. in this case how come no one is blaming the consultants for poor supervision and not mandating the test , usually a consultancy agency like STV or LTK contracted for this. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 20 11:05:33 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 07:40:51 2016. Great read.Thanks for finding and posting that Chuck. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jul 20 12:30:04 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 20 08:42:59 2016. good question. Best response is a long line of persons blackballed from FTA funded projects... |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 13:00:14 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jul 20 08:16:57 2016. Always glad to help! You are welcome. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 13:02:28 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 20 11:05:33 2016. Somebody is in big doo-doo. Hyundai-Rotem and it's sub supplier. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 13:11:12 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jul 20 13:02:28 2016. Lousy shot from my car, but this is a set of SL-V's parked near the Septa Frazer Repair facility,in Frazer, Pa. I am on Ravine Rd.,which tunnels under the RR tracks. SL-V in Frazer |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 20 14:05:24 2016, in response to Re: 1980 R-46 problems, posted by Westcode44 on Tue Jul 19 21:56:16 2016. True, but when the new trucks arrived for the R-46s, some were placed on the R-44s that lost their trucks and the rest went to the remaining R-46s to replace the Rockwells. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jul 21 05:43:40 2016, in response to Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 2 16:18:50 2016. Fixed when? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 22 09:13:09 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jul 21 05:43:40 2016. Thanks for the continuous updates!Interesting that they're trying to borrow some from Boston. Also from a linked article, looks like they got 5 more Marc cars recently. Exciting times down there, it would be awesome if they could get enough borrowed cars to run a normal schedule... |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 22 14:43:44 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 22 09:13:09 2016. No regrets |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 22 15:58:26 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 22 14:43:44 2016. Cancelled trains |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 25 11:04:26 2016, in response to Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 2 16:18:50 2016. Testing, testing...Testing a good car |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jul 31 08:12:46 2016, in response to Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 2 16:18:50 2016. This is copied from Facebook , from a friend. Just take it as hearsay.I saw a report that states they hope to have 10 cars back in service by early September, and 80 cars back by Halloween. We will see how it goes..... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 31 10:38:05 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jul 31 08:12:46 2016. My question is "what's the fix"?If it's just welding the cracks, then like when we had the R46 truck fiasco, I would think each truck would have to be inspected at least once a week. Of course they would have the luxury of running the cars rush hours only to keep the mileage and usage down. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jul 31 13:43:25 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 31 10:38:05 2016. The cracks cannot be fixed by welding, a new part has to be installed. I'm not a mechanical engineer so I can't explain why. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 16:04:25 2016, in response to Silverliner V problems, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 2 16:18:50 2016. 10 per week :) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Aug 3 18:02:02 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 16:04:25 2016. Thanks for continuing updates, and good news! |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Wed Aug 3 18:40:03 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 16:04:25 2016. yay! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 19:01:51 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Aug 3 18:02:02 2016. You are quite welcome. Hopefully this will all work out and the RR will get back to normal,(whatever that is). |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 3 19:35:10 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 16:04:25 2016. Good. Thanks for the update. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Aug 3 20:01:32 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 19:01:51 2016. would be nice. Over recent days I have been getting rid of old paper. Last night I read an old Trains article about how RDG coped w/ the Fretz building fire in Jan 63 and then a PTC strike. So, the current glitch, in the long view, is just another major bump in the road.During my brief time in Germantown, I used the Reading most days when commuting to a job at Leary's. Tried the Ridge Spur to the 23 a couple times but it took longer. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Wed Aug 3 20:05:48 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Aug 3 20:01:32 2016. I bought a number of books at Leary's. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Aug 3 23:47:51 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by chuchubob on Wed Aug 3 20:05:48 2016. if late 65 I was there. Up in the morning a nice walk to the RDG, breakfast at H&H, short walk to store. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 05:25:45 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 3 19:35:10 2016. You are quite welcome. I hope this works out as planned, and the RR gets back to full strength , it looks like at least before the winter! |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 4 07:49:16 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 16:04:25 2016. And they will be needed, especially with school starting up soon.The Trenton line should be given priority because of the number of people who use that to get to/from NYC. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Thu Aug 4 08:01:29 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Aug 3 23:47:51 2016. I was working across Market Street at Strawbridge's in 1965. I browsed and shopped at Leary's then. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 08:04:51 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by chuchubob on Thu Aug 4 08:01:29 2016. Leary's Bookstore was a legend. A lot of folks knew about it. I used to buy my dress shirts from Stan-Dee Shirts on 2nd st. . below Market St. Good times. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Aug 4 08:20:01 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 4 07:49:16 2016. Lol |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 08:51:32 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 4 07:49:16 2016. It's never a good time to have a structural failure, in your fleet, but at least in the summer, fewer school students,or hardly any, normally. This fiasco has ridership down anywhere from 10-20% on the RR from before the incident, per the Septa GM, Jeff Knueppel, he got those figures from spaces not occupied in the parking lots???? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 09:06:34 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 08:51:32 2016. Detailed article |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Aug 4 10:39:13 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 4 07:49:16 2016. With the rise in popularity of discount bus services like Boltbus & Megabus, I don't think many people use the Septa/NJT combo to travel between Philly & NYC anymore...The bus is CHEAPER and FASTER than the Septa/NJT combo... even Peter Pan/Greyhound is cheaper round trip than the train. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 4 11:57:31 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Aug 4 10:39:13 2016. The bus is CHEAPER and FASTER than the SEPTA/NJT comboWhich bus is that? Megabus takes two hours at fastest. The old Crusader train was faster, even with stopping at North Broad, Wayne Junction and Jenkintown. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 4 15:33:04 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 4 11:57:31 2016. And not everyone wants to risk getting stuck in traffic on those buses:Of course, there is the PATCO-Riverline option to Trenton from Center City, which is only $3 each way. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 17:28:15 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 4 15:33:04 2016. SL-V status update, July 19, 2016 |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Aug 4 19:19:01 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 4 11:57:31 2016. Most of the NJT/Septa combo trips takes 3 hours to go from NYC to Philly. The bus is a hour quicker. NJT/Septa combo is also 50 bucks round trip, you can buy bus round trip tickets cheaper than that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 4 19:53:11 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Aug 4 19:19:01 2016. Sad what it's degenerated into. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Aug 5 06:06:18 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Aug 4 17:28:15 2016. Thanks Chuck! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Aug 5 06:07:57 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by kp5308 on Fri Aug 5 06:06:18 2016. My pleasure, Kevin! |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Aug 5 07:19:11 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Aug 4 19:19:01 2016. If you can get a bus, which sometimes gets sold out:Plus, if you have a transpass, on weekends you can still use those ANYWHERE in SEPTA's system, meaning you can on weekends and big holidays go to Trenton on that and only pay the NJT portion. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 5 10:29:24 2016, in response to Re: Silverliner V problems, SL-V's to return, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 4 11:57:31 2016. Bring back the Crusader!If we ever get open access on railroads, Megatrain would open up something on that route in a heartbeat. |
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