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Posted by PegLegGuy on Thu Jul 21 04:25:14 2016 .. I'm sure some of you guys "hopped the train" in your youth. Given that it was/is a rite of passage for city boys to do. It was always easier to sneak on the El. The slam gates were, more or less, out of sight of the token booth agent. What about the "iron maidens" How many guys could you squeeze thru one of them? We did 4 one time at the BMT stop at 59th & Fifth. FYI: I'm 67. . |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 21 06:25:58 2016, in response to Easiest to sneak on, posted by PegLegGuy on Thu Jul 21 04:25:14 2016. We would just either walk up to the 11th Avenue side of the Sea Beach Fort Hamilton Parkway station and either go to the hole in the fence by the LIRR freight tracks and walk along the roadbed to the platform, or go to the high wheel exit, not the entrance, and push it hard the opposite direction, as it was broken. Also could go to the unused 60th Street side of the West End elevated and crawl through the bent bars. Whenever on the IRT with the entrance/exit turnstiles,we "backcocked" them. |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Thu Jul 21 20:27:06 2016, in response to Easiest to sneak on, posted by PegLegGuy on Thu Jul 21 04:25:14 2016. At 161st St station, Jerome line I would go up the staircase to the mezzanine on the Nothbound side and wait for a train to arrive. When the passengers exited when they came down to the mezzanine I would ask them to get me a transfer. Then I would go downstairs to the IND and enter. Then go downtown to 155th St. Station and get a transfer and go up to the Polo Grounds Shuttle and go to 167th St. Station Jerome line. My freinds and I would hang out there going back and forth for hours. When I got my train pass going to High School it was great. I would use it every where. Just hold it up and go through the exit gates. On Day a kid got stuck in the high exit turnstile at the lower level of 167th St. Concourse line near the trolley station below the mezzanine. In the roadway underpass.The PD emergency service had to get him out. My way was safer. When the Putnam division was abandoned the TA closed the joint IRT NYC head house and installed an Iron Maiden. You needed a token to enter. If you did not have one one you were out of luck. You had to cross Putnam bridge and enter at IRT or IND 155th ST. A TA employee I knew lived in Highbridge and worked in 370 Jay St. complained that he was unable to utilize his no fare privilege because of this situation. To solve the problem they gave him a key to the padlock. As he was a railfan he would let us in especially when we all went to the ERA meetings. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 21 20:59:25 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bronx boy on Thu Jul 21 20:27:06 2016. Bronx boy, when did they take down the 155th St station and the Putnam swing bridge? |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Fri Jul 22 23:33:28 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 21 20:59:25 2016. The first section of the Polo Grounds Shuttle to go was the Manhattan side bridge approach. This was done to correct the alignment of the Harlem River Drive which was under construction at that time. We are talking late 1958. The Putnam bridge was left in the open position and demolished using barges with cranes on them. That was 1959 and the East side steelwork and piers were removed up to the Sedgwick ave station. The structure at 155th St. followed. Parts of the structure remained as part of the Polo Grounds until the ball park was demolished.The structure at 162nd St. Was demolished in 1961. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 23 14:41:24 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bronx boy on Fri Jul 22 23:33:28 2016. Thank you for the info! I asked this question here, years ago, but nobody knew the dates. One more question- when they took out the bridge, did they extract the entire foundation down to the riverbed? |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Sat Jul 23 18:32:40 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 23 14:41:24 2016. Yes they did. The stone work and center foundation were totally removed. There was still river traffic and the U.S. army corp of engineers required it. The New York Central's Highbridge yard was used for many IRT rapid transit purposes throughout the years. From the time of the New York and Northern Railroad running into the Manhattan Elevated Railway's 155th St. station and later terminating at the IRT Sedgwick Ave. Station. Then the conversion of IRT. Composites for elevated service and the delivery and equipping the Flivvers with their subway trucks at the yard. To the storage and disposal of the Bronx portion of the 3rd Ave el at that then unused site the history of that area is quite interesting. Now of course the Highbridge Yard is once more a major facility for Metro North. Then across the river on the Manhattan side was 155th St Yard and the Green Lines trolley yard just South of there. That is also another story. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 23 22:38:31 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bronx boy on Sat Jul 23 18:32:40 2016. Didn't they also store the extracted pillars from the Bronx 3rd Ave el?I remember them being propped up against thr retaining wall for the Major Deegan expressway, next to the tracks. |
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Posted by Bronx boy on Sat Jul 23 22:51:21 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 23 22:38:31 2016. I have no knowledge of that |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 24 14:47:28 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 23 22:38:31 2016. I remember seeing them there from the Harlem River Drive, across the river. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jul 24 14:51:31 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bronx boy on Sat Jul 23 18:32:40 2016. Not to mention the old 145th St El yard, closed in 1906. |
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Posted by B1bus on Tue Jul 26 00:43:58 2016, in response to Easiest to sneak on, posted by PegLegGuy on Thu Jul 21 04:25:14 2016. I have seen "people" climb the fence near Ave H station. |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 26 10:48:15 2016, in response to Easiest to sneak on, posted by PegLegGuy on Thu Jul 21 04:25:14 2016. We got 3 kids in the iron maiden at the Halsey St. station on the Canarsie line. This was when a token was 15 cents. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 26 12:31:59 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bronx boy on Fri Jul 22 23:33:28 2016. The Polo Grounds itself was demolished in 1964 after the Mets and Jets moved to Shea Stadium. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jul 26 13:51:30 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bronx boy on Sat Jul 23 18:32:40 2016. If you get a chance, please tell us about the demolition of the 159th St yards. This is what I know: After Unification, the City removed a good portion of trackage, stranding some unwanted ancient el cars on the structure. In September of 1942, "NYC Scrap Commissioner", Robert Moses, ordered the remaining cars taken down with cranes to expedite the removal of the elevated yard. Towards the end of September, the Federal Office Of Defence Transportation halted the car removals. They said that each car had to be individually evaluated to see if it could be used somewhere. They proposed that the cars be moved to the center track of the Jerome Ave line, so they could be inspected. I read somewhere that Moses abandoned the project, but I don't know if the cars were ever removed during the War. Which leads up to the main question, when was the 159th St yard taken down? |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Jul 26 16:58:15 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 26 10:48:15 2016. Four of us would get in at the Myrtle and Wyckoff Ave iron maiden, almost got stuck in it one time. Karl |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Jul 26 16:58:30 2016, in response to Re: Easiest to sneak on, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 26 10:48:15 2016. Four of us would get in at the Myrtle and Wyckoff Ave iron maiden, almost got stuck in it one time. Karl |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jul 26 17:08:00 2016, in response to Easiest to sneak on, posted by PegLegGuy on Thu Jul 21 04:25:14 2016. In modern times just wait for someone to open the gate and walk though!Just don't try and fare beat at stations that have a police station in them, unless its Times Square - Port Authority. |
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