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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 25 13:34:41 2016, in response to LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 12:48:38 2016.

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Why do you hate liberty so much?

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Jun 25 14:51:23 2016, in response to LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 12:48:38 2016.

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Kinda cool! It would be somewhat like Middle Earth. I'd keep a lookout for large, omniscient eyes; you don't want those ;-)
One addition: Interstate highways will have no specific speed limit outside metro areas other than "don't be a jerk", same as the Autobahn. That was Eisenhower's original intent.

Of course, enough people would choose passenger trains to make them viable again... while we're dreaming.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 15:22:52 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 25 13:14:19 2016.

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The choice is simple in November. We either have a train wreck or a shipwreck.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 15:27:06 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 25 13:34:41 2016.

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I do not. Liberty is the be all and end all of good government.

Democracy on the otter hand is rule by the vast uneducated mediocrity.

The Republic that I have proposed side steps most of that while leaving the legislature to the people where it belongs. And by the way, has eliminated the head of state.

ROAR

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Jun 25 15:58:50 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 15:22:52 2016.

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yes, often the choices are unpleasant at best. Think how awful is was in 1968.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 25 18:08:53 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 15:22:52 2016.

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There's a third party in it this time too, so you can add a plane wreck. :)

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jun 25 18:28:45 2016, in response to LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 12:48:38 2016.

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A constitution written by the Attorneys-General? No thanks.

And why Coast Guard for a nation with very little coast? Louisiana seems to be the only state on your list with any ocean coast. Minnesota is on Lake Superior, but that's about it.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jun 25 19:28:32 2016, in response to LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 12:48:38 2016.

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You forgot to build a subway. Do that, and I'll move there.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 25 20:00:32 2016, in response to LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 12:48:38 2016.

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If I moved to your republic the reduction in my income would be way greater than the reduction in my taxes.



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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 26 05:24:02 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Renee gil on Fri Jun 24 19:35:32 2016.

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I would love to see that pic!

Send me an e-mail first and when I find it, I'll send you it.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 26 10:08:33 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jun 25 18:28:45 2016.

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Texas is on the list too. A strong Coast Guard reserve with station in every coasta town of any size would be able to provide fast hurrycane relief. No shortage of hurrycanes down there. If a hurrycane threatens say Galveston, then the coastal reserves there will evacuate with their families and then go into action in the refuge city to provide for their needs, while coastal reserves from other areas will man the Coastal Station in Galveston, using equipment already in place to protect the city and any remaining people who did not get out.

You do not have to wait for the creation of the Middle Republic to do this, It SHOULD be in place on all of the eastern US coastal cities. But you need good government to get that done, and that we have not , hand have not had for more than 16 years.

ROAR

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 26 10:11:03 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 25 20:00:32 2016.

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Perhaps so, maybe not. Our living expenses are a lot lower too.
With plan to eliminate corporate taxes, we aim to suck business and industry out the rest of the country and the rest of the world.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 26 10:13:05 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 25 20:00:32 2016.

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Perhaps so, maybe not. Our living expenses are a lot lower too.
With plan to eliminate corporate taxes, we aim to suck business and industry out the rest of the country and the rest of the world.

Also with US$ being printed at alarming rates, the stable Middle $ will be worth a lot more. We do not want our Ekonomia to go in the krapper just because Hillary plans to print more money. If Obambam could double our national debt in eith years, imagine what Herr Hillary could do.

ROAR

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by merrick1 on Sun Jun 26 10:31:43 2016, in response to LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 12:48:38 2016.

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Who gets to be a "Factor?" Someone with political connections I suppose. A lot of the profit in in the import-export trade is in currency trading.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 26 11:37:51 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by merrick1 on Sun Jun 26 10:31:43 2016.

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Nope. A "Factor" is any company that wants to do this business. They used to be called trading companies. Same Thing.

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Sun Jun 26 13:43:29 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Fri Jun 24 22:55:03 2016.

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I made this pic back in 2003 and posted it in Subtalk for one of the "diss Fred's beloved line" threads. :D

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Sun Jun 26 13:45:42 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Sun Jun 26 13:43:29 2016.

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I don't remember where I copied the pic of you from. It may have been one of the Arnine fan trips. The original Photoshop file was damaged and won't open anymore.

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by renee gil on Sun Jun 26 14:51:15 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 26 05:24:02 2016.

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Ok, great.

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 16:10:49 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 24 20:28:21 2016.

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Yes.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 16:18:31 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 25 18:08:53 2016.

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Who is their candidate, Crash N. Burns?

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 26 19:11:54 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 16:18:31 2016.

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Heh. :)

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by GIS Man on Mon Jun 27 08:53:53 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 24 20:42:50 2016.

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In a MAD Magazine issue from the early 1960's, in an article entitled "A Celebrity's Wallet - Barry Goldwater", the senator had obtained an estimate for the construction of a 10' high wall around the United States. Sound familiar? At least MAD Magazine was joking!

Bob

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by Q4 on Mon Jun 27 09:05:07 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by renee gil on Fri Jun 24 19:06:41 2016.

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Thanks

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 27 11:13:23 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 25 15:22:52 2016.

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Your are right...voting for the most bigoted man in America would be both train and ship wreck.
And whats wrong with our system?
You've benefited from its creation from day one,while others had to fight for some sort of inclusion status. You can't have your cake,eat it all up,then complain about how awful it tastes.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 27 11:14:58 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 16:18:31 2016.

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Nope.
Lesser of Three Evils.

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 11:27:38 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 26 10:13:05 2016.

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Such ignorance.

The national debt doubled because of all the Bush-era spending coupled with the 2008 economic collapse that removed the ability to pay.

Printing money doesn't cause a recession, it causes inflation, which is the exact opposite. If money is being printed so readily, where is the inflation? Why are interest rates so pathetically low?

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 11:29:45 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 11:27:38 2016.

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If money is being printed so readily, where is the inflation?

It's coming. Thanks to all the government bailout money spent, there will be double digit inflation by 2011 if not earlier.



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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 11:41:56 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Q4 on Mon Jun 27 09:05:07 2016.

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you're welcome

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 12:03:30 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 11:29:45 2016.

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Remember the film 2016: Obama's America? How's that working out?

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 13:22:32 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 26 05:24:02 2016.

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Thanks for the great picture!

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 27 17:44:30 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by renee gil on Fri Jun 24 19:06:41 2016.

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I like your proposed terminals. Sutphin/Archer is great for LIRR commuters, but the line should have swung back under Jamaica for Parsons Blvd, Merrick/168, and possibly beyond.

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 18:45:45 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 27 17:44:30 2016.

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It's not my proposed terminals though.

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Re: New South Ferry station

Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 19:22:21 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 27 17:44:30 2016.

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It's not my proposed terminals though. 190th Street-Hollis Ave (not Merrick Boulevard as I previously stated) was actually the proposed terminal station for the lower level Archer Avenue subway as part of the 1968 MTA "Program For Action" (Phase 2).

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Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government

Posted by Steamdriven on Mon Jun 27 22:39:52 2016, in response to Re: LION : New (Fantasy) Government, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 11:27:38 2016.

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Because it ain't that simple. Am no ex-pert, but I can guess:

i) When the size of the economy expands, more total money units are needed.

ii) When the money of nation X becomes a desired means of exchange and value storage among other nations, more money is needed or it will be scarce. There's both a windfall and hazard for nation X, if they treat the demand for their money as if it is a real export product, they'll get accustomed to getting imported goods for basically nothing.

iii) There may be an effect related to have fast money changes hands. In system where stuff circulates (say, trains going around a loop), the faster stuff moves, the less of it you need to keep a pipe filled. I dunno exactly how this works regarding money, but I suspect the systems have some common behaviours.

iv) There is a powerful need to avoid deflation - each money unit becoming more valuable. It sounds great; every dollar you have is worth a little more tomorrow. But it quickly goes bad: You wouldn't want to borrow to buy a house, because the mortgage payment would effectively go up every year. But you wouldn't want to pay cash, because tomorrow the same house will cost fewer dollars. Deflation is actually a disaster, because it causes an economy to go into death spiral such as the Great Depression.
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The public constantly demands something for nothing. To supply this demand, politicians give them deficits, which require issuing more money to pay for the new debt interest. The economy may expand fast enough that the gimmick causes no harm, or it may not.


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