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SAS tracks. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 16:20:15 2016 Have the tracks between 57/7 and Lex/63 even been used in revenue service before? Thansk!
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:24:01 2016, in response to SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 16:20:15 2016. Yes!The Q used them in 1995 during the Manhattan bridge shutdown. The 63rd Street shuttle used them during the rebuild of that line in the late 1990s. The R has used them for a number of GOs and service disruptions since 2001. |
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Re: SAS tracks. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 16:27:06 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:24:01 2016. Thanks! About to plan a trip to visit the new SAS the first week in Jan. Think they'll make the deadline? |
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Re: SAS tracks. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:32:26 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:24:01 2016. Yes. I have ridden an R from 36th Street in Queens that then stopped at Queensbridge, Roosevelt island, Lex/63, and 57/7th.I have my doubts about the first 2 however. I think those went via 6th Ave, not 7th. |
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Re: SAS tracks. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:39:10 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 16:27:06 2016. I would not reject the possibility, but I sure as hell wouldn't spend money on coming to NY for it, without a desire to come here with the potential of not riding SAS. |
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Re: SAS tracks. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:41:36 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:32:26 2016. Both of the services ran on both 6th and Broadway at some point during the period they existed. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 16:45:30 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:32:26 2016. I have my doubts about the first 2 however. I think those went via 6th Ave, not 7th.No, the 63rd Street Shuttle (using yellow "S" bullets) did indeed ran from 21st Street-Queensbridge station to 57th Street/7th Avenue. I think the 63rd Street Shuttle were extended to 34th Street-Herald Square station for a time. The 63rd Street Shuttle ran mostly R-32s. This was back in 1998-99. Also during the brief April-November 1995 Manhattan Bridge closure, the Q ran from 21st Street-Queensbridge to Stillwell Avenue station via the Broadway Line. It also ran through the Montague Street Tunnel. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 16:49:25 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:32:26 2016. Why would you doubt the first 2? If they didn't happen, then R30A wouldn't have posted them, or would have posted them in a way that indicated conjecture or assumption. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:52:46 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:32:26 2016. Q via Broadway/63rd: 63rd Shuttle to 57/7 or 34/Broadway:  (My searches also reminded me that during the earlier 6th avenue Fastracks, the Q was extended to Queensbridge as well. Furthermore, while I have no memory of such, I would be rather surprised if the post 9/11 Q to Continental did not run through 63rd on occasion, as the R very frequently did so. ) |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:54:35 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:41:36 2016. It was the time frame I doubted. I hadn't realized the 7th Ave connection was finished as early as 1995, but I stand corrected. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 16:55:01 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:52:46 2016. I miss those maps. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 17:01:32 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:52:46 2016. Those stations highlighted in yellow were the stations that used (and obviously still use) MetroCards. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 17:14:17 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:39:10 2016. I always book cancellable rooms. This far out the rates are gr8! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 27 17:33:56 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:24:01 2016. I remember those 1995 GO's. The only time during the 1990's that there was actual Broadway Express service, even if it did switch over to the tunnel south of Canal St. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 17:42:19 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:54:35 2016. I was under the impression that the 7th Avenue connection was completed at the same time as the 6th Avenue connection, even if unused. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Jun 27 18:16:09 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:32:26 2016.  R train rerouted via 63rd Street
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 18:27:45 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 17:42:19 2016. Now that I think about it more, I'm quite sure you're right. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 27 21:07:16 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 27 17:33:56 2016. I'm not sure when, but sometime before the Manhattan bridge side switch in 2001, there were several months where specific scheduled PM Q trains were run from 21st Queeensbridge to the 7th Ave express, switching to the local at Canal. It had to have been after 1998, and obviously not when the Shuttle was still a thing. Maybe 2000? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 27 22:13:42 2016, in response to SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 16:20:15 2016. I doubt that the north side of the platforms at 63/Lex were ever used in revenue service before the "temporary" wall was constructed, though. Trains from 7 Ave would have crossed over and used one of the south platforms. |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 00:16:52 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 27 22:13:42 2016. The northern half of the 63/Lex platforms were never used in revenue service, period. The northern half of 63/Lex was never completed. All I know is that the unused north side tracks (G3 and G4) at Lex/63 were used as storage for (W) Trains. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 09:37:13 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 00:16:52 2016. So the SAS will use the south platforms? |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 09:38:24 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 09:37:13 2016. of course not. |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 09:55:15 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 09:37:13 2016. Trains to the SAS will use the north side of Lex/63rd. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 28 10:30:17 2016, in response to SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Mon Jun 27 16:20:15 2016. YES! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 28 13:21:40 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 00:16:52 2016. Prior to the institution of the W a few Ns used the north side tracks for layups also. |
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Posted by Q4 on Tue Jun 28 13:31:31 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 09:37:13 2016. The 63rd St. and Lexington Avenue Station has one platform for each level. Half of the platforms were sealed off with a false wall with the F occupying the southern tracks of the station which were in revenue service. The northern tracks have yet to be used in revenue service and won't be until SAS opens. They were used as mentioned by a previous poster for layups.When 7th Avenue revenue service from 57th St. to Queens used the 63rd and Lexington Avenue station, they used a switch located west of the station to crossover to the tracks that lead from 57th St. and 6th Avenue. |
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Posted by Q4 on Tue Jun 28 13:32:45 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Q4 on Tue Jun 28 13:31:31 2016. Sorry, It should read that the 63rd St. and Lexington Avenue Station has one platform on each level. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 28 13:33:25 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jun 27 22:13:42 2016. It was a save face solution for the MTA concerning the Lexington Avenue station.The Feds were hot for them either to show cause WHY they were delaying finishing,or return monies used to build the line. Its a small wonder...given the fact that politicians practically stole the funding. |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 14:01:42 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by randyo on Tue Jun 28 13:21:40 2016. Yup. That's right. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 19:09:42 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Q4 on Tue Jun 28 13:31:31 2016. Will the walls come down? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 28 19:21:49 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 19:09:42 2016. Of course. How else could you do a cross platform transfer from the Q to the F? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Jun 28 19:38:22 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by jrr4 on Tue Jun 28 19:09:42 2016. The walls were removed in the last year or two; however, last I saw, they still had construction barriers closing off the northern half of each platform. |
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Posted by renee gil on Tue Jun 28 19:47:41 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Q4 on Tue Jun 28 13:31:31 2016. Yes. That's correct. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 28 21:35:37 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:24:01 2016. I rode on a Queasy along that unused stretch back in 1995. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Wed Jun 29 00:00:03 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Jun 28 19:38:22 2016. In the past few months a cute vinyl banner has appeared on the barriers showing an R160 (with some artistic liberties, of course) with "Q 2 AVE LOCAL" on the side sign, and at some points a large map with text explaining that the SAS is being constructed. |
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Posted by jrr4 on Wed Jun 29 12:06:37 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by K. Trout on Wed Jun 29 00:00:03 2016. I rode thru that station for the first time on my last trip to NYC and noticed that but never put two and two together. Just thought is was more station renovations. Can't wait til Jan to see it in action. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 29 12:32:47 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by K. Trout on Wed Jun 29 00:00:03 2016. Pics? |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Jun 29 14:10:53 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Jun 28 19:38:22 2016. they were down by fall 2013. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Jun 29 17:45:42 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 29 12:32:47 2016.    |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jun 29 19:35:04 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Union Tpke on Wed Jun 29 17:45:42 2016. That is cute! I don't think 1628 is a legitimate R-160 number though. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Jun 29 20:00:05 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jun 29 19:35:04 2016. It is not. |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Jun 29 20:59:57 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Union Tpke on Wed Jun 29 17:45:42 2016. Better than blue plywood.... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 30 01:47:39 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by The Silence on Wed Jun 29 14:10:53 2016. 11111111 wha saawhat? |
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Posted by The silence on Thu Jun 30 05:49:42 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 30 01:47:39 2016. (Does quick mental arithmetic)Yep, I was there around Halloween 2013, and the false wall was already gone, and there were plenty of gaps in the construction wall where I could see clear through to the other side. |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Jun 30 12:14:36 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Union Tpke on Wed Jun 29 17:45:42 2016. I like it and agree it is better than blue plywood which is what they had up previously when the false wall was removed. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 30 12:59:24 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by R30A on Mon Jun 27 16:24:01 2016. Yep. I remember all of those events. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 30 13:02:34 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 16:54:35 2016. I remember the Yellow S that ran from 21/Queensbridge to 34th Street Monday-Friday (more or less 6AM-9PM) and 42nd all other times.The tracks from 6th Avenue, in service less than 10 years at time, already needed to be replaced. It was a minor scandal. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 30 13:05:34 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 27 17:33:56 2016. I believe there was a very brief period in late 1990 where all 4 Manny B tracks were in service, and there was Broadway Express service. It lasted 6 months- if that. |
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Posted by renee gil on Thu Jun 30 13:55:30 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 30 13:02:34 2016. and 42nd all other times.57th/7th not 42nd. |
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Posted by Mysterious2train on Thu Jun 30 15:01:30 2016, in response to Re: SAS tracks., posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jun 29 19:35:04 2016. I think it's just a reference to the fact that the Second Avenue Subway Community Information Center is located at 1628 Second Avenue. Cute reference, but I think most wouldn't get it... |
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