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POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Jon Bell on Thu Feb 25 19:06:50 2016

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Hobble skirts?

Or miniskirts?



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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Feb 25 19:40:04 2016, in response to POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Jon Bell on Thu Feb 25 19:06:50 2016.

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I,ll take mini.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by chud1 on Fri Feb 26 04:41:53 2016, in response to POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Jon Bell on Thu Feb 25 19:06:50 2016.

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it is to drool.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by GIS Man on Fri Feb 26 09:04:39 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by chud1 on Fri Feb 26 04:41:53 2016.

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Which one?

LOL

Bob

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Joe on Fri Feb 26 15:23:51 2016, in response to POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Jon Bell on Thu Feb 25 19:06:50 2016.

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Despite often seeing photos of the hobble skirt conduit cars, I have been unable to find on the internet information about who built them, the size of the fleet, and the dates they were in use. Obviously, they were two-man cars, but why were the trucks so far forward?
Thanks!

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Asgard on Fri Feb 26 16:07:21 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Joe on Fri Feb 26 15:23:51 2016.

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Try searching "Hedley Doyle".

Some, at least, were built by Brill. There was at least one double-decker.

The trucks were at the ends to accommodate the low floor.

I have a very vague recollection that one of the Pacific Electric cars - known as "dragons" there - was at a museum in very poor condition. I don't know if it still survives. All I recall is a photo caption, "slain dragon".

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by chud1 on Fri Feb 26 16:30:24 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by GIS Man on Fri Feb 26 09:04:39 2016.

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both.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Joe on Fri Feb 26 21:46:47 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Asgard on Fri Feb 26 16:07:21 2016.

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Thanks, Asgard, for the Hedley Doyle clue. That led to the cars' other nickname, Broadway Battleships. Apparently, there was one double-decker.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 26 21:56:11 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Joe on Fri Feb 26 21:46:47 2016.

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AFAIK, it was only the double decker that was called the “Broadway Battleship."

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Evan on Sat Feb 27 14:59:04 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Asgard on Fri Feb 26 16:07:21 2016.

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Possibly the best, if not only, book on these cars is "The Hedley-Doyle Stepless Streetcar--80 Years Ahead of its Time" by Henry Elsner (Pub: NJ International 1997). Loaded with pictures, plans, shows all variations made (single truck, storage battery, double decker, European models).

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by jeffx on Sat Feb 27 17:43:57 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 26 21:56:11 2016.

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A postcard exists, which I have, that illustrates a car identical to the double-decker "Broadway Battleship" in Columbus, Ohio. Given that it looks like a retouched picture, I am uncertain if this car ever actually existed.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Evan on Sat Feb 27 17:53:51 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by jeffx on Sat Feb 27 17:43:57 2016.

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Yes, built 1914 by Brill. At 45'6", it was the longest Hedley-Doyle car ever built. (Broadway's double decker was 44')

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 27 18:00:42 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by jeffx on Sat Feb 27 17:43:57 2016.

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Might this be the car in question?



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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Evan on Sat Feb 27 18:16:03 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 27 18:00:42 2016.

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That's New York Railway's Broadway car. The one for Columbus was a bit more squared off on the upper deck and didn't have the skirts over the trucks.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by chud1 on Sat Feb 27 18:17:50 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 27 18:00:42 2016.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this picture.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 27 18:20:45 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Evan on Sat Feb 27 18:16:03 2016.

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this car was known as the broadway battleship.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 27 18:35:01 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Evan on Sat Feb 27 18:16:03 2016.

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Yep ... that's the photo that I thought wasn't readily available, so I figured I'd go for it. Aussies love their trams more than we do.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 27 18:35:53 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 27 18:35:01 2016.

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Ah ... I see the issue. Posted my reply one message down from where it was intended.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 20:01:53 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 27 18:20:45 2016.

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What ever became of it, after New York Railways closed in 1936?

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 20:02:36 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 27 18:20:45 2016.

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What ever became of the Battleship, after New York Railways closed in 1936?

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by jeffx on Sun Feb 28 12:34:43 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Evan on Sat Feb 27 17:53:51 2016.

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Ah, thanks very much for that info!!

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 28 13:31:33 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 20:02:36 2016.

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I believe most of the Battleships "went to war" as scrap metal, like the BMT's Green Hornet did...

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 28 14:04:06 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 28 13:31:33 2016.

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I was wondering if it was used by another traction line, prior to WWII.

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 28 15:15:02 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 28 13:31:33 2016.

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New York Railways "Battleship #6000" was apparently taken out of service in 1922. Just wondering what ever became of it!

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 28 20:31:22 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 28 13:31:33 2016.

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I found found out that car #6000, the "Broadway Battleship", was retired in 1922, probably as an economy measure. The East 32nd Street yard and car barn were was sold off, under bankruptcy proceedings, later that year. just wondered what became of #6000!

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Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!

Posted by Jon Bell on Mon Feb 29 14:13:25 2016, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Choose your favorite skirts!, posted by jeffx on Sat Feb 27 17:43:57 2016.

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A postcard exists, which I have, that illustrates a car identical to the double-decker "Broadway Battleship" in Columbus, Ohio.

Is it this one?



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