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PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016

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The LIRR has a lot of exciting junctions and since most of them are transit accessible I have been gradually checking them off my to do list. Previously I had visited Valley Stream, Mineola, Babylon and Hicksville leaving QUEENS interlocking on the main line between Floral Park and Queens village as one of the last major junction points to document. Seeing as how QUEENS interlocking stretched between three stations I was faced with the prospect of paying pricey LIRR fares to jump the short distance between stations (something that would also put me at the mercy of the LIRR's schedule). Fortunately, after checking Google Maps, I discovered that it would be reasonable to simply take the train to Floral Park and then walk to Bellrose and then Queens Village.

After wrapping up at Queens Village I transferred to an E train at Jamaica and killed what time I had left on the (7) Extension to Hudson Yards. You can find the complete set of photos here.

I caught a main line express train out to Floral Park after riding MNRR in from Ossining. Here LIRR M7 #7642 departs Floral Park for points east.



Floral Park represents the point where Hempstead Line trains depart the Main Line right of way. While both Main and Hempstead Line trains can serve Floral Park, it is primarily a Hempstead Line station. Here an outbound Hempstead Line train pulls into the 'C' platform with LIRR M7 #7620 through the extended limits of QUEENS interlocking.



Main Line Port Jeff or Oyster Bay train speeding towards the Bellrose station on the Main Line with DE30 #411 pushing from behind.



Longer Penn Station bound Main Line train bracketed by DM30's #416 and #514.





It was only around 9am so there were still a good number of commuters making their way into the city from Floral Park. Here an inbound M7 train led by #7831 arrives from the Hempstead Branch.



Another inbound DE train led by C3 cab car #5008.



Here in this video we see two LIRR MU trains led by M7 #7030 and M7 #7302 negotiate the 80mph high speed crossovers at QUEENS interlocking . The Belmont section of QUEENS interlocking is designed to fallow a 4 track main line with center express tracks to merge into two parallel 2-track lines. The line on the left goes to Hempstead, while the Main Line on the right continues on to Mineola, Hicksville and beyond. Because the line speed is the same as the turnouts, trains are able to diverge under Clear signal indications.



Fire alarm pull box in Floral Park. ALERT KEVIN WALSH!



Bellrose's signature feature is the 4-track position light gantryleaver at the west end of the station. These signals were installed when QUEENS was rebuilt between 2005 and 2007. Here we see LIRR M7 #7408 taking the 22W signal. It will soon stop a short distance away at the 12W signal to wait for a slot to cross over to the westbound local track.



This traffic was in the form of a Main Line train led by LIRR M7 #7178 which would not stop at Bellrose or Floral Park.





Here we see the parallel high speed ladders in the east end of QUEENS interlocking. Before the rebuild this section has consisted of three 80 mph equilateral turnouts to rearrange traffic from American 4-track local/express layout to the British 2+2 track local/express layout. There are currently no interlocking appliances between the Bellrose signal bridge and the signal bridge shown here, however there were during the rebuild process and more could be installed to expand capacity. Past the twin position light cantilever signals is the older western section of QUEENS with traditional Medium Speed crossovers. Also, just visible, is QUEENS tower itself.



Looks like another headway interval has passed as Hempstead bound LIRR M7 trainset with #7382 pulls into Bellrose. As for myself, its time to walk to Queens Village.



Here is a montage of LIRR trains taking various PRR position light signal indications at QUEENS interlocking.

In the first clip an outbound train of M7 MU's passes an inbound train of M7's at Floral Park, just as the outbound train knocks the Approach Medium indication on the 42W signal. The 42W is fleeted and changes to a Stop and Proceed. Later that same train takes another Approach Medium on the 22W signal bridge while an inbound diesel hauled train powered by DM30 #510 takes the Clear indication on the 23W.

Next an inbound Hempstead train departs the Bellrose station on an Approach indication displayed on the 22W, stopping short of the 12W at Stop. This later changes up Approach Medium in response to the route being lined to the inbound local track past the 2W, displaying Medium Clear.

Finally an inbound Main Line MU train passes the 23W signal displaying Clear and makes a high speed diverging movement to the center express track.



Rear of QUEENS tower as seen from a parking lot. While the tower's US&S Model 14 interlocking machine was retired with the rebuild, the tower itself is still manned, controlling the local and remote interlockings via a point and click computer display.



Queens Village LIRR station.



QUEENS tower as seen from the Queens Village platform. Note the Medium speed trailing point ladder.



In this vodeo an eastbound LIRR ballast regulator rockets past the 1W home signal at QUEENS interlocking while an inbound diesel express train, hauled by DE30 #423 and led by C3 cab car #5005, makes the high speed diverging move into the center express tracks at QUEENS interlocking.



I finally got some relief from the M7 monotony when an inbound train of Budd M3'sblasts past on the local track at the Queens Village platform. Meanwhile the next inbound Hempstead train, that I was looking to catch, waits dutifully for the express to clear. When the switch throws the local completes the medium speed route in front of QUEENS tower to then platform at the station.



Lead unit on my train back to Jamaica was LIRR M7 #7251.



Here we see some MoW crews fixing up HALL interlocking east of Jamaica.



Because of the re-signaling efforts on the Queens Blvd line I wanted to take some photos of the remaining classic interlocking towers. Usually this results if someone getting irate and yelling at me, but this tower operator seems to have Failed a Spot Check.



Two R62 trainsets side-by-side at Hudson Yards. Unfortunately this gave me a false sense of security. After shooting my first pair of videos, it took me over an hour of waiting for another R62 set with a railfan window to show up show.







Apparently, while I was taking these photos some sort of Comic Book convention was going on in the convention center. Cosplayers riding the subway in non-subway appropriate attire was one big tipoff, but this photo contains a more subliminal reminder ;-) Can you spot it?



Killing time waiting for an R62 by people watching at Times Square (7). Bah, R142's...what a way to ruin a perfectly good subway line.



Desperately killing time by comparing the escalator to the ADA funicular at Hudson Yards. The funicular is slow to the point of being useless. #WasteOfMoney



Ahhh, that's more like it. Even had a clean window.



Changing of the guard at Grand Central.





Tune in next time when I show you the videos taken both on the Hudson Line and to/From Hudson Yards.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jan 31 17:39:45 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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xlnt videos and photos

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 31 18:58:01 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures and video's.
can i have some more please, pretty please.
chud1.
:).....

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#7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 19:51:03 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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Based on the photos of Hudson Yards station, the sign over the left-hand track only refers to the 7 local, while the sign over the right-hand track refers to the local and express services. Does this mean the express is supposed to always use the same track? And, if so, do they really maintain that method all afternoon?

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Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 31 20:12:05 2016, in response to #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 19:51:03 2016.

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Wow. That is quite something. It implies they are sure the same track will be used for express trains until such time as they change the signs.



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Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 20:24:43 2016, in response to #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 19:51:03 2016.

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"Does this mean the express is supposed to always use the same track?"

Doubt it. Could be a missing sign.

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Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 31 20:29:26 2016, in response to Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 20:24:43 2016.

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But the signs on left and right are fundamentally different. The left sign says Flushing Local All Times. The right just says Flushing Local, implying not at all times.





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Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jan 31 20:45:27 2016, in response to #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 19:51:03 2016.

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Yes, during the PM Rush the 7 express leaves from the same track, prior to 34th HY opening it was the same way at TSQ IIRC. Can't recall ever riding a 7 express that left from the Mantthan bound track at either station.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jan 31 20:51:17 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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The subliminal is you in the reflection dressed up as a Dragon Ball Z character?

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Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 20:54:13 2016, in response to Re: #7 question: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by AlM on Sun Jan 31 20:29:26 2016.

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I didn't reply to your post because in my current state, I could not easily and quickly understand it and I did not wish to expend any more energy to try to do so. So I can't reply to this either.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 20:55:28 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jan 31 20:51:17 2016.

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Doubt it.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 20:56:05 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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"but this photo contains a more subliminal reminder ;-) Can you spot it?"

l33t?

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 21:46:31 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 20:56:05 2016.

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Gold star!

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 31 21:51:47 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 21:46:31 2016.

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Thanks.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 22:19:38 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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The "useless" funicular is, like most subway elevators, intended mainly for the elderly and disabled.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 1 03:40:15 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 22:19:38 2016.

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And people with strollers. :)



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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 1 06:52:24 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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I've never thought if interlockings as being exciting, but to each his own.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 1 07:22:59 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 1 06:52:24 2016.

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That's because you're a really dull person. 80 MPH switches are freaking sweet!!

This is a railfan forum. If you're not a railfan, then leave. It's so simple.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 1 07:43:14 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 31 22:19:38 2016.

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The elderly risk dying before they reach the top or bottom.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Feb 1 08:15:01 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 1 07:43:14 2016.

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True story.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Feb 1 13:16:56 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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Very very nice!

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Feb 1 17:12:21 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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Didn't "Brooklyn Bus" claim that there were no signs pointing to the elevators?

Were the signs added or did he miss them?


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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by chud1 on Mon Feb 1 18:16:46 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by merrick1 on Mon Feb 1 17:12:21 2016.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this picture.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 2 07:06:38 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by merrick1 on Mon Feb 1 17:12:21 2016.

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I don't see elevator signs in any other photo.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 2 09:15:54 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Feb 1 07:43:14 2016.

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I don't know why all MTA elevators (of whatever type) have to take all day to level out at the arriving level. If you take away the time for those last few inches between when the silly bell rings to announce the arrival and the elevator door actually opens, the elevators aren't all that bad (not good, but not all that bad).

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 2 09:21:16 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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Well at least the elevators have good EFWs (elevatorfan windows)!

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Feb 2 12:53:24 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by merrick1 on Mon Feb 1 17:12:21 2016.

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Didn't "Brooklyn Bus" claim that there were no signs pointing to the elevators?
Yes.

Were the signs added or did he miss them?
LOL, take a guess!

Note that there word "elevator" is not necessary on any such sign.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by jabrams on Sun Feb 7 12:16:37 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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In the first video, why didn't the reverse signal and the 2nd Hempstead(?) track switch to read (horizontal lights) as the E/B train crossed over that track?

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Typos corrected

Posted by jabrams on Sun Feb 7 12:18:46 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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In the first video, why didn't the reverse signal on the 2nd Hempstead(?) track switch to red (horizontal lights) as the E/B train crossed over that track?

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 7 13:50:24 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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Nice photo essay.
Videos were great.

Always nice to see your work.
Of course you are correct concerning the so called elevator at Hudson Yard...its slower than molasses pouring out of its jar.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 8 19:54:16 2016, in response to PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 31 17:29:52 2016.

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On average, there are now only three or four R-62As in daily service on the Flushing Line.

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Re: Typos corrected

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Feb 9 08:51:03 2016, in response to Typos corrected, posted by jabrams on Sun Feb 7 12:18:46 2016.

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There is an intermediate W/B signal you can't see well in the video.

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Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS).

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Feb 17 22:21:32 2016, in response to Re: PHOTOS: QUEENS (+ HUDSON YARDS)., posted by jabrams on Sun Feb 7 12:16:37 2016.

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There is an intervening signal.

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