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The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Union Tpke on Thu Oct 8 19:56:27 2015

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Railroad Will Eliminate Little-Used Ticketing Options That Had Faded in Popularity

The Long Island Rail Road wants customers to know that a number of changes to little-used ticketing procedures that have faded in popularity are taking effect at the beginning of October. Most of the changes were previously announced when they were approved by the MTA Board in July.

WebTicket, which allowed LIRR customers to order tickets online and have them delivered by mail within 7 business days, will no longer be available beginning Thursday, October 1. The popularity of WebTicket has declined significantly, representing only 0.1% of the LIRR’s ticket sales. Monthly ticket buyers are encouraged to sign up for Mail&Ride, the LIRR’s convenient ticket-by-mail subscription service. Other customers are advised to allow time to buy tickets at easy-to-use LIRR ticket machines and staffed ticket windows, where available.

Monthly Tickets: Validity will now start at 12 midnight on the first day of the month, rather than at 8 p.m. on the last day of the prior month. (This does not affect the first business day of the month courtesy, which allows monthly ticket holders to surrender the previous month’s ticket on a morning rush hour train, then buy their new monthly ticket at their destination before the commute home. This practice will remain in effect.)

Weekly Tickets: Validity will now start at 12 midnight on Saturday mornings, rather than at 8 p.m., on Fridays.

One-Way Tickets, which are valid for 60 days from date of purchase, will now expire at 11:59 p.m. on the 60th day. (Previously, they expired at 4 a.m. on the 61st day.)

Stop-Overs at intermediate stations are no longer permitted with one-way or round-trip tickets starting October 1, 2015. This seldom-used option had allowed customers who purchased one-way or round-trip tickets to exit the train at an intermediate stop, and re-board later in the day using a single ticket.

Going forward, customers should purchase separate tickets for each leg of their trip. To save money, buy before boarding at a ticket machine or staffed LIRR Ticket Window, since tickets bought onboard the train cost up to $6.50 more than the station price. Monthly and weekly ticketholders are not affected by this change.

For More Information
In addition to this information being available on the LIRR’s website, customers can also contact the LIRR’s Customer Service Center by calling 511, the New York State Travel Information Line, and saying: Long Island Rail Road. If you are hearing impaired, use your preferred relay service provider for the free 711 relay to reach LIRR at 511.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Oct 9 14:56:51 2015, in response to The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Union Tpke on Thu Oct 8 19:56:27 2015.

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Bummer about the stopover. I've used it before when I lived in Port, stopped in Great Neck to get my paycheck, and continued on to the city

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Oct 15 02:05:37 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Oct 9 14:56:51 2015.

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Why am I only hearing about this now that it's dead?

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 15 07:28:57 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Oct 15 02:05:37 2015.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 07:31:48 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Oct 15 02:05:37 2015.

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They came out with it on the website a few weeks ago. They tried to sneak it in with the fare increase, and were exposed since they declined to state as much in the hearing process.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 15 08:52:40 2015, in response to The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Union Tpke on Thu Oct 8 19:56:27 2015.

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I always thought the monthly is the best deal overall. It costs more but you can make unlimited trips 24/7 within the two zones on the ticket.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 15 08:54:59 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 15 08:52:40 2015.

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That's deep, Mitch. On so many levels. Thank you for that. I'll alert the WSJ.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Thu Oct 15 09:17:09 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 07:31:48 2015.

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MetroNorth gives you a nice discount for purchasing WebTicket (10-trip, one-way, round-trip, etc), but LIRR doesn't.

People making a stopover who don't have a monthly/weekly pass are probably better off using the NICE bus for $2.75 (or Unlimited Metrocard.)

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 09:25:28 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by BrooklynTrain on Thu Oct 15 09:17:09 2015.

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I think that would be just Conn-DOT ?
NICE Bus as a substitute for railroad travel is a joke.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 15 13:10:10 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by BrooklynTrain on Thu Oct 15 09:17:09 2015.

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MetroNorth gives you a nice discount for purchasing WebTicket (10-trip, one-way, round-trip, etc),
No they don't. They used to in the past though.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Oct 15 14:33:03 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 09:25:28 2015.

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NICE Bus as a substitute for railroad travel is a joke.


Buses parallel many of the lines, if you're just going a few stops it may make sense to take the bus, then get on the train. Especially now that the buses have real-time information it won't be such a wildcard to decide to use the bus.


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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 14:49:21 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Oct 15 14:33:03 2015.

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I doubt most LIRR passengers ever took a Nassau County bus in their life.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 15 14:52:04 2015, in response to The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Union Tpke on Thu Oct 8 19:56:27 2015.

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I can see why they'd eliminate "stop-overs", and web-tickets (pointless if you can't print valid tickets immediately)

But the changes to monthly, weekly, and one-way tickets represent chiseling. ...

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 14:58:14 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 15 14:52:04 2015.

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It's all nickel and diming petty bullshit that will have no impact on their bottom-line.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Thu Oct 15 18:11:28 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 15 13:10:10 2015.

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Put in Fordham to Cos Cob, select 10 trip off-peak WebTicket. My current WebTicket gave me a discount; otherwise I wouldn't have purchased it.

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Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 16 06:48:46 2015, in response to Re: The demise of Stop-Overs and other LIRR Ticket Procedures, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 15 14:58:14 2015.

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I agree. I mean, consider the example of a guy who worked a short week this week, but knows he has a full Monday-Friday next week, but wants to go out for some drinks after work tonight. Previously, he'd be able to use his new weekly for the trip home tonight, as well as for all of next week. Now, he needs to buy one more off-peak one-way.

This'll set him back anywhere from $5.75 - $12.00 or so- and will feel like theft. But- just how many cases can there be like this? When dealing with budgets in the billions, skinning 12 people on a Friday night of an average of $9.25 won't make a difference. But it will leave the few affected individuals pissed off, posting bad stories about the MTA, and maybe voting against the next bond issue.

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