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Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 22:29:02 2015

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Apparently the low door was a Jim Crow requirement for delineation of "separate but equal" accommodation.



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Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 22:32:17 2015, in response to Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 22:29:02 2015.

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Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933

Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 7 22:35:08 2015, in response to Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 22:29:02 2015.

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Nice photo!

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Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933

Posted by Bill West on Wed Jul 8 03:55:29 2015, in response to Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 22:29:02 2015.

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Although the story appears to come from Ken Kinlock's site, specifically the middle of this page, the nose and center door design are straight off a Union Pacific McKeen car. Of course there its door height suited the low station platforms of most roads in the country and the center location was because of a rounded, platformless rear end. A look at North East Rails however shows at least two other GE cars with center doors and end platforms that were built for roads not in Jim Crow territory and one car without the center door for St. Louis Southwestern (The Cotton Belt). So I think the small size of IC #113's forward compartment is more suggestive of the then ubiquitous smoking compartment.

Bill

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Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 8 15:46:33 2015, in response to Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 7 22:35:08 2015.

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can you run the train from the passenger end, or just the baggage end?

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Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933

Posted by Bill West on Wed Jul 8 16:44:44 2015, in response to Re: Illinois Central low-door doodlebug #113 at Memphis TN, circa 1933, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 8 15:46:33 2015.

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Many gas cars do have rear controls but it would have been an $ option. There is no rear pilot here so it is unlikely to be so equipped. Gas cars usually replaced branch line steam trains so a wye or turntable often already existed at the far end of most routes. Given that these lines were losing money; adding the controls, a pilot and a headlight could easily be skipped.

Bill


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