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In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used? |
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Posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 28 17:05:52 2015  |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jun 28 17:50:00 2015, in response to In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 28 17:05:52 2015. missionary |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 17:55:49 2015, in response to In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by heypaul on Sun Jun 28 17:05:52 2015. Originally, all glazing back then had the chickenwire in it with the belief that it would help keep broken glass together. It's very difficult and expensive to find it nowadays. My bet is that the glass with the chickenwire in it is original and the clear glass was all they could find to restore the car. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 28 19:06:03 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 17:55:49 2015. IIRC even the R-10s had chicken wire in their storm door windows. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:30:08 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 28 19:06:03 2015. Yep ... once safety glass was properly done into the 1950's, they found that the chicken wire really wasn't as safe as they thought. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jun 28 20:16:02 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Jun 28 17:50:00 2015. Stop staring at her ass through the chickenwire glass door! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Jun 29 00:03:16 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Jun 28 20:16:02 2015. would you rather I stare at HIS ass? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 29 06:36:30 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:30:08 2015. Thanks, that is interesting.... |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 29 09:52:51 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Jun 29 00:03:16 2015. I think your SCOTUS may have ruled on that.I'm just saying. Myself, I'm a traditionalist. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 29 09:55:14 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 17:55:49 2015. I recall chicken wire on R-1 storm doors with a split horizontal bar about midway. |
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Posted by Asgard on Mon Jun 29 11:47:36 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 29 09:55:14 2015. As I recall, the earlier cars didn't have the horizontal bar.Somewhere I have a list of differences among various groups of R1s - R9s, but I don't know where it is. Things like the horizontal bar, reinforcement under the doors (none, center doors, all doors); indentations in the doors; upper and lower or lower only door pocket windows. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 16:58:39 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 29 09:55:14 2015. The split windows were on the 7's and 9's, and chicken wire was the original shipments. When front glass got broken, it was usually replaced with ordinary safety glass from the 1950's onward. |
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Posted by heypaul on Mon Jun 29 17:15:05 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 16:58:39 2015. When the R1/9's were delivered in the 1930's, what type of glass was used for the windshields in the motorman's cabs? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 17:16:11 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by heypaul on Mon Jun 29 17:15:05 2015. That was regular glass. It was only the storm doors that got the treatment. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Jun 29 17:53:17 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 17:55:49 2015. Chicken wire glass is around, but it is getting really expensive in larger pieces and you have to make sure the architects don't snag it first. Old Good Things used to have a nice supply from salvaged NYC industrial windows. You might have to look out in the rust belt to find big enough pieces nowadays.Of course, you could make a decal that looks like chicken wire glass and apply it between two pieces of safety glass, but that's alot of work. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 18:04:14 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Jun 29 17:53:17 2015. Yeah, definitely beyond MTA's bidding process and approved vendors list. :) |
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Posted by heypaul on Mon Jun 29 18:06:33 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 17:16:11 2015. So if a rock or cinder block hit the cab windshield, it would shatter like a regular window pane?Many many years ago, I was at the storm door of a Triplex. As it was approaching Prospect Park, a large object hit the window. Fortunately, no glass went flying. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 18:18:40 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by heypaul on Mon Jun 29 18:06:33 2015. It's supposed to shatter and stay in place, just like the windshield of a car. Safety glass is two panes of thin glass with adhesive between the layers. Normal windows aren't built that way, they're generally a single pane of glass if that helps. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 29 20:33:42 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 16:58:39 2015. The R-6s also has split glass. The R-1s and R-4s had one large glass pane on their storm doors. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 29 20:34:56 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 18:18:40 2015. IIRC ordinary glass will break into daggers while tempered glass breaks into small pieces and stays together. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 22:42:10 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 29 20:33:42 2015. Yeah, didn't see a whole lot of those on the D, we were mostly 1's and 4's. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 22:42:40 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 29 20:34:56 2015. Yep ... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 30 19:14:25 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 22:42:10 2015. By the time you were in the cab, Most of the R-7/9s were out on the Three Stooges Division while the R-6s and remaining R-7s were out in Queens. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 1 00:03:02 2015, in response to Re: In What Positions Was Wire Reinforced Glass Used?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 30 19:14:25 2015. Yep ... we did have some 6's in the collection but mostly 4's and 1's. |
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