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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 26 07:39:26 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. The Lexington Line, BrooklynMyrtle Avenue Line All of the Third Avenue Line The Fifth Avenue Line The Culver Shuttle 18 St, 91 st etc. ROAR |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue May 26 08:17:09 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. 1949 Subway |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 26 08:18:05 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. 168th St (Jamaica)160th St Sutphin Blvd. Queens Blvd. Metropolitan Avenue (Jamaica) Worth St. 18th St. (Lexington) 91st St. 13th Avenue Fort Hamilton Parkway (Culver) 210th St. 204th St. 200th St. Fordham Road (3rd Av) 183rd (3rd Av) 180th Tremont Avenue (3rd Av) 174th Claremont Parkway 169th St. 166th St. 161st St. (3rd Av) 156th St. 149th St. (3rd Av) 143rd St. 138th St. (3rd Av) 133rd St. 129th St. 125th St. (3rd Av) 116th St. (3rd Av) 106th St. 99th St. 89th St. 84th St. 76th St. (not in Queens) 67th St. 59th St. (3rd Av) 47th St. 42nd St. (3rd Av) 34th St. 28th St. (3rd Av) 23rd St. (3rd Av) 18th St. (3rd Av) 14th St. (3rd Av) 9th St. Houston St. (3rd Av) Grand St. (3rd Av) Canal St. (3rd Av) Chatham Square City Hall (3rd Av) Franklin Square Fulton St. (3rd Av) Hanover Square South Ferry (el station) Grant Avenue (Fulton el) Crescent St. (Fulton el) Chestnut St. (Fulton el) Montauk Avenue (Fulton el) Linwood St. (Fulton el) Van Siclen Avenue (Fulton el) Pennsylvania Avenue (Fulton el) Hinsdale St. (Fulton el) Rockaway Avenue (Fulton el) Sumner Avenue Tompkins Avenue Nostrand Avenue (Myrtle el) Franklin Avenue (Myrtle el) Grand Avenue (Myrtle el) Washington Avenue Vanderbilt Avenue Navy St. Bridge/Jay Dekalb Avenue (Lexington el) Greene Avenue Franklin Avenue (Lexington el) Nostrand Avenue (Lexington el) Tompkins Avenue (Lexington el) Sumner Avenue (Lexington el) Reid Avenue Anderson Avenue Sedgewick Avenue 155th St. (Polo Grounds) Dean Street (Franklin Avenue shuttle) Cortlandt St. Bronx Park Terminal (3rd Av) That's 85 missing stations. From that, subtract: Jamaica Van Wyck Sutphin Blvd. (Archer Av) Parsons/Archer Aqueduct Racetrack North Conduit Avenue Howard Beach Broad Channel Beach 90th St. Beach 98th St. Beach 105th St. Beach 116th St. Beach 67th St. Beach 60th St. Beach 44th St. Beach 36th St. Beach 25th St. Mott Avenue/Far Rockaway 57th St. (6th Avenue) Lexington Avenue (63rd St.) Roosevelt Island 21st St. Queensbridge Grand Street (Chrystie) 148th St. (Lenox) 179th St. (Jamaica) There. A far more comprehensive list than you could have possibly wanted. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue May 26 09:37:02 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. Were most motormen Irish back then? All but one of the motormen in the clip had Irish names. |
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Posted by heypaul on Tue May 26 11:16:00 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Dave on Tue May 26 09:37:02 2015. I think Kevin would tell you that IRT stood for Irish Rapid Transit. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue May 26 11:31:11 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by heypaul on Tue May 26 11:16:00 2015. Thanks, Paul. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 26 14:08:27 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Nilet on Tue May 26 08:18:05 2015. Wow! I'm impressed. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 15:03:24 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 26 07:39:26 2015. Sorry, Lion.The Fifth Avenue el closed in 1940, so its stations don't count. City Hall (1945) and 18th Street (1948) had already closed by the time this film was made. Ditto Court Street (1946). |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 26 16:28:09 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Dave on Tue May 26 09:37:02 2015. I knew one of the M/M in the film, Pat Loughlin. I met him at Woodlawn in 1962 when he was switching in Mosholu Yd. His nickname was “Mother” or “Ma” Loughlin acquired when he planted a garden in front of the crew room/yardmaster’s office in Mosholu Yd. What is interesting is that he looked exactly the same in 1962 as he did in the 1948 film. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue May 26 16:29:42 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. That guy with the drum wasn't too happy with the C/R LOL. thanks for the video. Karl |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 26 16:35:08 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by heypaul on Tue May 26 11:16:00 2015. Yep. And the BMT was mostly Italian and the IND was mostly Black and Hispanic. Segregation at its strangest. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 26 18:32:23 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 26 14:08:27 2015. I had lists handy.They were from 1948, so they might be a little inaccurate for 1949. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 26 18:44:03 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 26 16:35:08 2015. Actually, that wasn’t quite true The BMT had a mix of Irish and Italians in the Southern Division and Irish German and Polish in the Eastern. The IND while it was the first division to employ minorities was still largely Irish at the time that movie was made. One of the reasons why the subways streetcar lines and bus lines had an inordinately large percentage of Irish employees was that unlike other immigrant groups, the Irish spoke English as soon as they entered the country due in large part to having the language forced on them by their British overlords. When speaking on her biography of her late husband Mike Quill, Shirley Quill commented that when they arrived in the US, the Irish spoke English “in a way” which is why they were well suited to jobs requiring interaction with the public like transportation. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue May 26 18:49:46 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by randyo on Tue May 26 18:44:03 2015. One could only wish it was done that way today with all aliens entering our country. Karl |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 26 18:56:58 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue May 26 18:49:46 2015. I guess it all depends on where the ethnics decide to settle. An old time IRT T/D who was from Allentown Pa, told me that back in the days of the P & W interurbans. it was not uncommon to ride one of the Liberty Bell Limiteds and hear nothing spoken but German. I’m sure that the operating staff of that railroad was equally fluent in German as well. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue May 26 19:18:40 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by randyo on Tue May 26 18:56:58 2015. Great story, I lived in Allentown,Pa. , from age 2 to 6.We moved to Philly but my dad still tought gym & health in Allentown. He lived with his folks all week except he came home Wednesday nites and weekends. I remember riding The Liberty Bell Limited from 69th St. to Allentown with my mom to see my dad one day. Don't remember anything about the trip but us going to 69th St. to catch the trolley. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue May 26 19:30:27 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue May 26 18:49:46 2015. One could only wish it was done that way today with all aliens entering our country. KarlSome places I call, have this: Para español, pulse dos. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 26 20:02:48 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. I bought that exact video as a VHS cassette about 20 yrs ago at the transit museum. I probably still have it somewhere but I don't have a working VCR any more. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 26 22:52:15 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 26 20:02:48 2015. i own several good working VCRs and could convert it to a DVD for you |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 26 23:10:27 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by randyo on Tue May 26 18:44:03 2015. Well ... none of the stereotyping is quite true, but if you close your eyes and really believe, then it works as long as you believe. :)But we sure did have a lot of fellow "Micks" working the Irish railroad. (grin) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 27 00:02:10 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by randyo on Tue May 26 18:56:58 2015. And German was taught in Cincinatti until WWI. As to speakimg English on arrival, I would remind all that Spanish is the "native" language in Puerto Rico,and predates English in Texas, NM, Ar, and CA. ANYONE who doesn't bother to learn at least one foreign language is lazy in my book. |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed May 27 04:14:17 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 27 00:02:10 2015. i like being lazy. my family spoke english only.as long as i live in da USA, english is da only language i will speak. i am a few generations here. chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 27 07:44:29 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. And by the end of 2016, there may be 471... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 27 08:02:09 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. Incredible video!! Thanks for posting :) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed May 27 20:43:05 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Nilet on Tue May 26 18:32:23 2015. The only closing in 1948 was Bronx Park (3rd Ave el), but that was only between 7PM-7AM, so the station was still used. Can't think of any others. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 28 05:33:36 2015, in response to Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 26 07:33:43 2015. There is almost no BMT footage at all. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 28 05:36:17 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed May 27 00:02:10 2015. My parents had a rudimentary knowledge of English when they came here in 1949, but for the most part they picked it up on the fly, so to speak. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 28 05:37:25 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 26 20:02:48 2015. Mine still works, plus I have two DVD recorders with VCRs.:) |
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Posted by Gene B. on Thu May 28 12:08:54 2015, in response to Re: Film About The Subway in 1949, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 26 07:39:26 2015. Myrtle Ave on the BMT Manhattan Bridge Route, the Fulton St. el stations which were over the IND subway, and the Broadway Brooklyn eastern stations to 168 St. are some of the missing stations. |
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