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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 22 17:58:12 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Nilet on Thu May 21 22:49:01 2015. Should they?Used to be you had to be a white, male landowner in order to vote. Now we just vote free money to the "poor" (whoever they are) and 100% taxes on the rich. Problem is... When nobody it rich, then everybody is poor. LION would rather see everybody be rich, or at least a weathy and they can be. ROAR |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 22 20:22:42 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 22 17:58:12 2015. fine. just not possible when the top tiny tier own almost all the wealth in the country. A nation which allows corporations to engineer a bankruptcy to obliterate pensions for all of the actually productive workers and then pay the robbers bonuses is simply not sustainable. We can't afford haealth care, decent passenger rail service but we have corporate welfare for the crony kleptocrats. Abandonning the F 35 alone could fund a major fraction of the full Second System. Which one do you want? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Fri May 22 23:22:17 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu May 21 08:06:25 2015. Sand hog as it refers to tunnel workers is probably a hell of a lot more difficult and dangerous employment than any of the true dime a dozen workers, the generic business school graduates with a sense of entitlement, who try to run businesses they know nothing about by "following the numbers". Part of our problems in this country stem from our propensity to pit one group against another, instead of working to improve things for everyone. Half of a small pizza is less than 40% of a large pie. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 23 00:27:38 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 22 17:58:12 2015. Should they?Used to be you had to be a white, male landowner in order to vote. Yes, and we now recognise that this was a bad thing. Well, some of us do anyway. Now we just vote free money to the "poor" (whoever they are)... You seriously need to take a peek outside your privileged cloistered (pun intended) lifestyle. Poverty is a major problem in this country. ... and 100% taxes on the rich. What now? Citation very much needed. You just made that up. Problem is... When nobody it rich, then everybody is poor. Um, no. Math really isn't your strong point, is it? Suppose a society has a GDP of $10,000,000 and 250 people. If that society awards $4,500,000 to each of 2 people, $10,000 to each of 100 people, and $0 to the remaining 148 people, then you have 2 people who are rich, 100 people who are poor and 148 people in abject poverty. On the other hand, if you allocated $40,000 to each of the 250 people, then no one would be rich but everyone would be comfortably well off. LION would rather see everybody be rich, or at least a weathy and they can be. Except the problem is that you have basically no understanding of economics. There is a finite quantity of wealth— add up the total value of all goods and services produced, and that's how much wealth there is. Nobody can have more wealth than all of it. We have limited capacity to increase the total amount of wealth available, since that's limited by technology and human ability; no matter how much incentive you are offered, you physically cannot work 24 hours each day nor can you build skyscrapers overnight. What we can control much more extensively is how that wealth is distributed. At the moment, wealth is distributed such that a very small group of people have a considerable majority of the wealth, a slightly larger group under them have most of the rest, and the majority of the population has little or no wealth at all. This is obviously unfair. Like you, I would like to see everyone be rich. However, that can't be done because there isn't enough wealth to go around— it is physically impossible to make everybody a millionaire short of inflating the currency to the point where even poor people are technical millionaires. Given that your "make everyone rich" utopia is nothing but fantasy, and considering only the options that are actually available, it seems preferable that wealth be distributed more evenly such that everyone is well off ("middle class") rather than unevenly so that a small handful of people are extremely rich at the expense of a majority in abject poverty. Further overcomplicating matters— if wealth distribution were more equitable as I propose, there would actually be more wealth available to distribute, although your understanding of economics is probably far too limited to understand why. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 23 00:31:04 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 22 17:54:47 2015. Suppose that you were a Communist and I were a Capitalist...Neither of those things is true. Suppose I had all of the money, and you had a box full of sand... Suppose you got owned so hard you started spouting gibberish... Suppose I were a LION and found your litter box and... Yeah, I'm gonna call this a "win." Although frankly, taking the Terrapin Station route is not exactly the most dignified way to concede an argument. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 23 18:56:38 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu May 21 08:06:25 2015. That statement is a clear sign of your lack of Knowledge of Self...your classism...a cog. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 23 23:35:05 2015, in response to Re: NYC Rail networks—bursting at seams?, posted by Nilet on Thu May 21 22:49:01 2015. Its also funny as hell,that he's not one of the rich..yet his neo con brainwashing has him repeating the company lie...mum pardon me,I meant to say "company line". |
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