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Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015 Yeah, they did it!Briarwood-Van Wyck Boulevard Subway Station Gets Simpler Name. -William A. Padron ["<-85th Ave-<"] |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by Lance52 on Sat Apr 18 11:58:35 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. All right. What about those large mosaic tiles that say "Van Wyck Blvd"? Obviously those aren't going anywhere, so what's the difference in dropping the name from the nomenclature? |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 12:31:05 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Lance52 on Sat Apr 18 11:58:35 2015. Just like at Court Square-23rd Street, that still have the 23rd Street-Ely Avenue mosaic and square tiles, nothing else and most likely none. Probably would later change the name on the maps, plus reprogram the FIND display and announcements on the R-160's.Just neighborhood ego from the residents, that's all, that wanted this. So how about then changing "Jamaica-Van Wyck" as "Jamaica-89th Avenues", if they want to go so far. -William A. Padron ["<-Queens Blvd-<"] |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by northshore on Sat Apr 18 12:46:27 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 12:31:05 2015. Renaming Jamaica-Van Wyck to Jamaica-Metropolitan Ave would be appropriate. |
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Posted by Allan on Sat Apr 18 14:43:56 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. I am surprised at bit that they didn't call the station 'Main Street'.Main Street starts on the northern side of Queens Blvd at that point. |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 18 15:37:03 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. “What the heck is Van Wyck Boulevard? I didn't even know what it was, when this issue was first brought to my attention," said Queens State Senator Tony Avella.
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 15:42:03 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 18 15:37:03 2015. I don't see the problem with his statement. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 15:43:00 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Allan on Sat Apr 18 14:43:56 2015. Had Main Street been completed to Queens Blvd by that time? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Apr 18 16:02:47 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. nobody asked me...but i hate this. "simplification" sucks. i like subway stations named after no-longer-existing streets... |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 16:07:00 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by ntrainride on Sat Apr 18 16:02:47 2015. I like a subway that's practical and comprehensible. |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 18 16:26:25 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 15:42:03 2015. Van Wyck Blvd essentially became the service road for the Van Wyck Expressway when the expressway was built. If the senator doesn’t know what Van Wyck Blvd either is or was then shame on him! |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Apr 18 16:28:44 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 16:07:00 2015. ok. i still like that i can take a train to Beebe Avenue. |
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Posted by northshore on Sat Apr 18 17:43:33 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by randyo on Sat Apr 18 16:26:25 2015. It is similar on the L.I.E. Horace Harding Blvd became Horace Harding Expwy which is the service road for the Long Island Expressway. |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Apr 18 17:50:38 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by ntrainride on Sat Apr 18 16:02:47 2015. IAWTP!chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 18 18:47:01 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by northshore on Sat Apr 18 17:43:33 2015. According the Vincent Seyfried’s book BRT Trolley Lines of Queens County, prior to Horace Harding Blvd it was called Strong’s Causeway. |
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Posted by Allan on Sat Apr 18 19:04:51 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 15:43:00 2015. That I do not know but since it is there now they could have used it. |
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Posted by northshore on Sat Apr 18 19:37:36 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by randyo on Sat Apr 18 18:47:01 2015. It was also called Nassau Blvd |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 18 19:38:44 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by ntrainride on Sat Apr 18 16:28:44 2015. Or Lowery Street. The old station names aren't going Anywhere. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Apr 18 20:25:56 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by northshore on Sat Apr 18 19:37:36 2015. A short stretch of road near the Queens-Nassau border retains that name, as the name Horace Harding name went with the Long Island Expressway service road where it diverges from the boulevard route. |
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Posted by B53RICH on Sat Apr 18 22:24:58 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 18 15:43:00 2015. Don't think so. the Main Street section from around GCP to Queens Boulevard was opened around the time the Van Wyck Expressway's Main Street exit extension was completed, I believe. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Apr 19 05:12:45 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by randyo on Sat Apr 18 16:26:25 2015. my response was, He doesn't know where / what Van Wyck is?What kind of a New Yorker is he? Ship him off to Circleville, OH or some such place. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Apr 19 08:25:38 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by B53RICH on Sat Apr 18 22:24:58 2015. That's right, the Main St extension to Queens Blvd was opened in 1954. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Apr 19 10:08:23 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. Nice! I'm a huge fan of single-word stations, makes things very railroad-like.We have had Woodlawn, and now we have Briarwood. Bowery sort of counts too, though not in the same way. In many cases, even two-word stations that relate more to the vicinity than a specific street are nice and practical. I'm not sure why they don't just make it "Kew Gardens," and "Forest Hills." That's how people refer to them in common conversation nowadays anyway. (I lived in Forest Hills for a couple of years). A simple "Jackson Heights" would also simplify a lot regarding that complex. This business of trying to squeeze all of this information into a station name seems so unnecessary, as long as you have good information about each station available and good maps. |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Apr 19 10:19:16 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Apr 19 10:08:23 2015. Some aplaces have multiple stations. For example, I the 74 St/Jackson Heights or 67 Av/Forest Hills would be better. |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 19 12:34:18 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by randyo on Sat Apr 18 16:26:25 2015. I disagree. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 19 13:40:23 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. That first "historian" did not know what he was talking about.Of course there was a Van Wyck Boulevard. A simple Google check would have confirmed it. http://freepages.nostalgia.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bwickham/map/pages/fk0713.htm |
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March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.) |
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Posted by Allan on Sun Apr 19 14:33:02 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. The March 2015 edition (Regular and Multilingual) of The Map shows "Briarwood" as the station name. |
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Re: March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 19 14:46:38 2015, in response to March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.), posted by Allan on Sun Apr 19 14:33:02 2015. Nice! |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 19 15:39:39 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 19 12:34:18 2015. With which part of my post? |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Apr 19 17:35:09 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 19 13:40:23 2015. It doesn't look like Van Wyck Blvd was near the station though. It looks like it ran south from Jamaica Ave. |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Apr 19 20:53:40 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by merrick1 on Sun Apr 19 17:35:09 2015. And it looks like Metropolitan Av is called Jamaica Av. Is that a mistake on the map, or did Jamaica Av originally follow the Metropolitan Av route? |
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Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:15:25 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 19 13:40:23 2015. What historian? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:16:21 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 19 13:40:23 2015. What historian? The linked article doesn't mention any historians. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:20:41 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by gbs on Sun Apr 19 20:53:40 2015. I don't think that map is too accurate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:22:28 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 19 15:39:39 2015. Your post contained only a single opinion. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Apr 20 10:28:13 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by northshore on Sun Apr 19 10:19:16 2015. But if you have simple station names then those names will easily catch on. If I tell someone in Forest Hills that I "caught the subway in Forest Hills," they immediately assume I mean at Continental.67 Ave is very close to the line of Rego Park and Forest Hills that I would just leave it as is. Meanwhile 63rd Drive can easily just be Rego Park, and Woodhaven Blvd at this point might as well become Queens Center (while Queens Plaza should have a different name). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 20 11:06:37 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Apr 20 10:28:13 2015. What should they name the station Queens Center? That's a private business, and businesses don't last forever. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 20 11:08:42 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by northshore on Sun Apr 19 10:19:16 2015. I'd suggest renaming Roosevelt Avenue/Jackson Heights to 74th Street/Roosevelt Avenue. This would eliminate possible confusion between this station and the 82nd Street–Jackson Heights station on the 7 line, and give both the IND station and the IRT station a common element to which the station can be called (74th Street). |
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Re: March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.) |
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Posted by Lance52 on Mon Apr 20 11:45:43 2015, in response to March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.), posted by Allan on Sun Apr 19 14:33:02 2015. Now they just have to update the online map and the ones on the trains and in the stations. |
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Re: March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.) |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Apr 20 13:30:19 2015, in response to Re: March 2015 The Map (Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal.), posted by Lance52 on Mon Apr 20 11:45:43 2015. My guess is that the maps in the trains and in the stations will not get updated until the 7 train extension is opened.Why the online edition has not been updated is anyone's guess. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Apr 20 15:33:24 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by northshore on Sat Apr 18 12:46:27 2015. I agree. Or Jamaica Ave-Van Wyck Expressway |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 20 16:14:31 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:22:28 2015. I mentioned 2 items, the part about the history of Van Wyck Blvd developing into the expressway and the part criticizing the senator for not knowing it. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 20 16:18:01 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 20 11:06:37 2015. They changed the name of Chambers St/Hudson Terminal to Chambers/World Trade Center. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 20 16:18:32 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 20 11:08:42 2015. I definitely agree with that post. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Apr 20 16:40:08 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 20 11:06:37 2015. Nothing lasts forever. I'd be willing to bet that lots of the other things in the city that make it into station names will be moved / retired before Queens Center.If an extension to Kings Plaza existed, do you really think they would name the station Avenue U? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Apr 20 16:43:30 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 20 11:08:42 2015. But why not just 74th St then? There's no other 74th St in the system, and the name makes sense in the context of adjoining stations on both the IND line and the IRT line. There are lots of Roosevelt Avenue stations on the IRT, and a Roosevelt Island station on the IND.I think that because it's a big complex people feel like it has to have a big name. If you don't go with the neighborhood name, Jackson Heights, then just make it simply 74th St, no? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Apr 20 19:29:21 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Apr 20 10:28:13 2015. They should rename Queens Center Slattery Plaza. The current Madison Square Garden is #4 and is nowhere near Madison Square, so this even makes more sense, and the tiles on the subway station would not have to be changed. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 20 19:34:28 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:20:41 2015. Is 'Forrest Hills' named for Forrest Gump? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Apr 20 19:49:04 2015, in response to Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 18 11:53:13 2015. All this re-naming nonsense should just stop. Didn't anyone learn a lesson from what happened to 6th Ave?? Avenue of The Americas never did catch on. Who's idea was that, La Guardia's? How ironoic it was that the name change of the avenue, initiated by him didn't work out, but an airport wound up with his name, changed from some other name (North Field?) no doubt.I think there was an official attempt to officially re name "The Avenue of the Americas"... back to 6th Ave! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Apr 20 23:05:50 2015, in response to Re: Briarwood Station...A Done Deal., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 20 07:16:21 2015. That's why he wrote "historian." |
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