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Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Mar 1 22:11:17 2015

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I saw one car in Coney Island shop with that type of sign. Could they all be done?

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 1 22:29:37 2015, in response to Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Mar 1 22:11:17 2015.

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I haven’t seen any yet but hopefully they will all be done as well as the IRT’s R62s and 62As even if they only have the simpler R-46 version and not FIND.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Mar 1 22:30:34 2015, in response to Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Mar 1 22:11:17 2015.

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Got an image of it?

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by trAIn duDe on Sun Mar 1 22:41:36 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by randyo on Sun Mar 1 22:29:37 2015.

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Maybe prototyping the 2017 R-68 SMS. They have the 200+ sets saved from the R-44s. Good news if they get it to work

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Mar 2 01:22:03 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Mar 1 22:30:34 2015.

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As they say on the Internet, Pics or it didn't happen.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 07:28:05 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by randyo on Sun Mar 1 22:29:37 2015.

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Be interesting if R68A get them, and then run a mixed consist of R68 and R68A.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 2 07:59:51 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by randyo on Sun Mar 1 22:29:37 2015.

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Were there ever subway cars that had motorized roll signs in the cars, where the signs in all the cars could be controlled from the cab?

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 2 08:04:26 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 2 07:59:51 2015.

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IIRC the R46 was, though not successful. Maybe our respected elders and experts here can be more specific.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 08:42:01 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 2 08:04:26 2015.

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I think CTA's work that way. They change "LOOP" signs to their outbound destination before they hit the Loop L, like at Merchandise Mart.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 10:22:09 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Mar 2 01:22:03 2015.

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From what I was told just 45 minutes ago it almost didn't happen. It likely won't be done because there are not enough trainline spare wires to do it. It was done to show that it "could be done" and then undone. So since there are no public pictures of it yet, it never happened.

Of course, in the same phone call, I was told about another train that is in service today with new electronic equipment on board. Since I do not have pictures yet, we'll save that for another day.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 10:24:02 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 2 08:04:26 2015.

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The Identra system on the original R-46 trains worked intermittently and was ignored to death and ultimately replaced by the Luminator system, which did work very well.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 2 12:31:46 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 07:28:05 2015.

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I would imagine if the R-68As get them, the 68s won’t be far behind.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 2 12:33:31 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 2 08:04:26 2015.

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Although they are no longer around on NYCT property, the R-44s also had motorized roll signs.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 12:35:47 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by randyo on Mon Mar 2 12:31:46 2015.

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Not if they are all 2nd hand from scrapped R44's - not enough.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 12:40:39 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 12:35:47 2015.

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Of course when the first 300 R-46s get mothballed there will be enough to make a good start. Or maybe they could buy some new sets.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MTA T on Mon Mar 2 21:16:43 2015, in response to Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Mar 1 22:11:17 2015.

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This is really interesting. I wonder if this is why some cars have lost their original rolling scroll side signs lately. (not through vandal activity)

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MTA T on Mon Mar 2 21:37:44 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by trAIn duDe on Sun Mar 1 22:41:36 2015.

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I think they disposed of the signs with the R44s themselves. (they trucked the signs out on the trains)

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 3 20:53:25 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 2 08:04:26 2015.

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The pre GOH'ed R-46s had cab controlled rollsigns.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 4 14:32:15 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 3 20:53:25 2015.

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As did the pre GOH R-44s.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Mar 4 17:07:54 2015, in response to Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Mar 1 22:11:17 2015.

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The car was not there yesterday so I have no picture now.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Mar 4 17:56:01 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 12:40:39 2015.

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So- silly question- maybe I should know this...but how were the R44s disposed of? Were they reefed,, like the Redbirds, R32s, $0s, etc...,, or shipped someplace like the M1s...

And if they were towed out of town, where did they go, what was done to them when they got there, and how did they go- towed by locomotives, loaded onto flatbed railcars, or on trucks?

Any info would be appreciated...

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Mar 4 18:13:36 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Mar 4 17:07:54 2015.

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Were those electronic signs anything like the ones on R44 and R46?

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Mar 4 18:44:30 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 10:22:09 2015.

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What is this new equipment?

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 5 00:51:32 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Mar 4 17:56:01 2015.

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I’m sure that there were certain parts salvaged from the reefed redbirds that can be used on remaining in service equipment. I would suspect that the same would be true of the R-44s since there are certain parts like window frames, trucks, drawheads etc that can be used on existing in service equipment.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MTA T on Thu Mar 5 01:58:45 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Mar 4 17:56:01 2015.

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They were towed by trucks to a scrap yard in Newark, New Jersey.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 5 07:49:29 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by MTA T on Thu Mar 5 01:58:45 2015.

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Thank you. I'd thought they were still languishing at 207th...

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 5 07:49:53 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 5 07:49:29 2015.

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Quite honestly, I don't miss them.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by MTA T on Thu Mar 5 13:47:50 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 5 07:49:29 2015.

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Nah only one set (5286-5289) is now but even so I think it was scrapped too.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 6 11:51:31 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Mar 5 07:49:53 2015.

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I do.

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 6 11:54:54 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 10:24:02 2015.

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Wasn't Identra a signal system? What did it have to do with signage?

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Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars

Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 6 16:23:15 2015, in response to Re: Electric Side Signs on R68A Cars, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 6 11:54:54 2015.

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If the identra coil on the cars were properly set, then all the signs in the train would automatically set to the proper readings.

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