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Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Feb 26 13:16:52 2015 Yesterday I rode the J line out to Woodhaven for the first time in about 5 years. I rode two R-42's which were in very bad shape esthetically.But they were toasty warm! It got me to think, it the R-44's were not retired early, and the R-32 & R-42's were retired instead, What would the fleet look like on the J,Z,& C lines? Would they have run 4 car R-46's on the east? |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Feb 26 14:23:59 2015, in response to R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Feb 26 13:16:52 2015. 75' equipment CANNOT under ANY circumstances run on the BMT Eastern Division. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 26 15:02:30 2015, in response to R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Feb 26 13:16:52 2015. No.There would be an all 160 fleet operating there. The 46 cannot travel along the Fulton st portion due to the sharp curves. A planned rebuild/relocation was dropped due to community opposition. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 26 17:00:15 2015, in response to R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Feb 26 13:16:52 2015. That strech between Norwood St & Elderts Lane is the dealbreaker for 75ft equiptment on the J/Z |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Feb 26 17:15:17 2015, in response to R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Feb 26 13:16:52 2015. There would be more R160s on the J/Z and with more R46s on Queens Blvd and R44s on the C with R44 & R46 on the A. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by MTA T on Fri Feb 27 05:30:18 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Feb 26 14:23:59 2015. They can. Except on the super curvy section on the J/Z east of Myrtle Avenue all the way until Jamaica Center. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Feb 27 07:43:04 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by MTA T on Fri Feb 27 05:30:18 2015. The mere fact that the S curve by Crescent Street exists justifies the moratorium on 75' equipment. The ends of the sides of the things would be tore to shreds should they pass each other on the curve. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Feb 27 09:02:39 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 26 15:02:30 2015. Thank you, so they would take R-160's from the F and turn them into 4 car sets for the east and send more r-46's to the F? |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Feb 27 09:03:23 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 26 17:00:15 2015. Thank you even if it is let's say a 4 car train of 75 footers? |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Feb 27 09:03:48 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Feb 26 17:15:17 2015. THANK YOU that makes sense. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Feb 27 09:04:32 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Feb 27 07:43:04 2015. understood thank you |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by TERRApin Station on Fri Feb 27 12:52:40 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Feb 26 14:23:59 2015. I disagree. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 27 15:57:58 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Feb 27 07:43:04 2015. The curve at Crescent is actually not the problem since the tracks are sufficiently far apart to clear. The problem is with 2 trains of 75 ft cars trying toppers on the S curve coming off the Willy B near Marcy. Those tracks are close enough to cause passing trains of 75 ft cars to foul if they happen to be passing at the same time. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 27 16:00:56 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by rbseabeach on Fri Feb 27 09:03:23 2015. It’s the car length that causes the problem, not the train length. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 27 20:53:23 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by MTA T on Fri Feb 27 05:30:18 2015. R46 cars were repaired at ENY DO shops back in the eighties...and nineties.I myself saw a few four car trains coming and going standing at Myrtle/Bway... Bottom line,the cars Can travel along the Nassau tunnel,over the bridge and along Broadway as far as ENY yard....but Not over Fulton st. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 27 20:58:46 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by rbseabeach on Fri Feb 27 09:02:39 2015. No..just ordered more four car sets,like they are doing with the R179s. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 28 15:29:15 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 27 15:57:58 2015. Did the curve at Marcy nearest the bridge get made a wider radius when the structure was rebuilt ? Inbound trains seem to go faster around it than decades ago. |
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Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160 |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 1 17:39:14 2015, in response to Re: R-32 R-42 R-44 R-46 R-160, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 28 15:29:15 2015. I’m really not sure. It would have made sense to do it which is probably why it wasn’t done. |
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