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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 30 15:48:14 2015 The Queens Boulevard line and the Eighth avenue line were built before the sixth avenue line. I have a few questions regarding this.1. At 7th Avenue, which had already opened there is a track for sixth avenue service. Was there just an empty track bed there at the time? Also, would there be bellmouths on either side of this area for future sixth avenue service? 2. Past 5th Avenue, there is the turnoff for sixth avenue service. Was there a bellmouth here? It appears there would be, just by looking at where the two routes diverge from each other. 3. At West Fourth Street, were there bellmouths for sixth avenue service? There must have been. With the sixth avenue line construction, how did affect Eighth Avenue service? Were there closures, or did they work while trains passed by with restricted speed. One more question. 23 St-Ely (Find Court Square-23 St) was an in-fill station. Why did they decide to put it in later? Why was it decided the station was needed? If the station wasn't put in, how would affect the G train's being cutback to Court Square?, would this mean a free transfer between the G and 7 earlier, and a transfer at Queens/Queensboro Plaza? Were there provisions for the in-fill station in the tunnel? Maybe a station shell? |
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Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Jan 30 17:27:27 2015, in response to Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Jan 30 15:48:14 2015. Just a couple of notes:1) The time listings on when a station "opens" and when it was "built" can be two very different things. (For a recent example, the Archer Avenue subway and stations lines were completed a few years before they opened to the public. Similarly, A-train service to Euclid Avenue opened much later than when the tunnels and stations were built.) 2) One could easily imagine a situation where at Seventh Avenue all train service is on one track on each level, and there are just signs above the platforms to that effect, while the remainder of the subway line is built. 3) Remember that the Court Square complex were three originally separate stations (with separate fare controls, entrances, etc.) that in the circa 1990's were made to work together. The building of the Citi-Corp. building at that site helped connect these separate stations, in a similar to the 51st-Lexington Avenue and 53rd Street-Lexington Avenue stations. This change was necessary due to the changes with the G-train. If the G-train was not changed it is doubtful that all of the improvements would have resulted. 4) The 23 St-Ely (Find Court Square-23 St) was built as the same time as the rest of the IND Queens Blvd segments, however the tile-work of the station was not completed until later. After the tile-work was completed the station was opened. Before then the station was simply dark and express trains simply ran past the station. Today on the #1 line trains daily run past the 91st Street station, same as the Worth Street station on the #6, or the Myrtle Avenue station just north of the DeKalb Avenue station. Mike |
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Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 30 17:40:23 2015, in response to Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions, posted by Michael549 on Fri Jan 30 17:27:27 2015. I've always wondered about 23-Ely. Even when I was a little kid, I could see the tile work was different there. |
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Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 30 19:39:47 2015, in response to Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 30 17:40:23 2015. I’m not too sure about the timeline of the telework. I had always figured that the station was completed in its entirety but not opened until some time after its completion. It is definite that 42/8 LL stayed untiled till some time in the 1950s when it was completed, accounting for the same style of tiles that the IND S/O ENY has. |
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Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jan 31 20:07:14 2015, in response to Re: Original IND/Sixth Avenue Subway questions, posted by Michael549 on Fri Jan 30 17:27:27 2015. Of course, now they've installed those #$@%& timers at 91st, so n/b expresses come to a near-screeching halt and crawl into 96th. |
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