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What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by heypaul on Tue Jan 27 06:59:20 2015

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I predict the subway will reopen unofficially at 10 AM, without any fanfare, as if nothing had happened.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 07:24:46 2015, in response to What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by heypaul on Tue Jan 27 06:59:20 2015.

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And Cuomo will be criticized for closing it down despite snowfall being less than expected.



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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 27 07:42:50 2015, in response to What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by heypaul on Tue Jan 27 06:59:20 2015.

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It has been running as if nothing had happened through the night. You could even see the Dyer on train time!

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jan 27 07:50:23 2015, in response to What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by heypaul on Tue Jan 27 06:59:20 2015.

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Partial opening at Grand Central-Times Square with de Blazio cutting ribbon.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by JAzumah on Tue Jan 27 08:24:15 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 27 07:42:50 2015.

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I figured that it might be.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by skokieswift on Tue Jan 27 08:57:01 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by JAzumah on Tue Jan 27 08:24:15 2015.

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My EXPERT prediction is that service restoration will quietly begin in 4 minutes with a full Sunday schedule in force by noon...

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 27 09:23:03 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 07:24:46 2015.

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And I suspect will face internal pressure from key donors to NEVER shut down the underground portion again UNLESS we have a Sandy-like situation.

This to me was all about protecting a 2020 or '24 Presidential bid where if the MTA had messed up and a lawsuit happened, it would be against Cuomo in advertising (and like it or not, politics are that cutthroat now even if no one wants to admit it).

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by fdtutf on Tue Jan 27 10:23:24 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jan 27 07:50:23 2015.

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I don't think Cuomo would let de Blasio steal his thunder.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Jan 27 10:38:51 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 27 09:23:03 2015.

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Will you STOP already with 2020 and 2024? Only the most ideologically petty people running against Cuomo would hold it against him. Only the most ideologically petty people like to bring up the distant past against their opponents. Why? Because their own campaigns don't have much substance to begin with.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 12:12:29 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 27 09:23:03 2015.

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wrong

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 12:13:51 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 07:24:46 2015.

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And Cuomo will be criticized for closing it down despite snowfall being less than expected.
Why would you use the word "despite"?

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:23:32 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 07:24:46 2015.

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I dunno, on Sunday night the NWS briefer down here said the range of forecasts included snow amounts between 3 and 24 inches of accumulation, depending on where the storm strengthened, and that the low end of the range was most likely. The media decided to go with the upper end of that range, neglecting to mention the little detail about geography. In the end we got maybe 3". Some of the forecasters were pretty close, they just don't get time in front of the camera.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 17:42:05 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:23:32 2015.

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Doesn't matter. Cuomo is taking a beating up here locally for closing the Thruway despite less snowfall than we got Saturday morning. Safe to assume those in the city will do the same thing for closing down the MTA. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:48:03 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 17:42:05 2015.

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He's taking a beating because to all appearances he went with the forecasts as purveyed by the media, as opposed to something from NWS with some background to it. You're going to be damned if you ignorantly make decisions based on flawed information.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:56:29 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 17:42:05 2015.

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He's taking a beating because to all appearances he went with the forecasts as purveyed by the media, as opposed to something from NWS with some background to it. You're going to be damned if you ignorantly make decisions based on flawed information.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by JAFO on Tue Jan 27 18:22:47 2015, in response to What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by heypaul on Tue Jan 27 06:59:20 2015.

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My prediction:
YES
it will reopen.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 27 18:38:30 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:56:29 2015.

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He's taking a beating because to all appearances he went with the forecasts as purveyed by the media, as opposed to something from NWS with some background to it.

No, you can't blame Cuomo for that. At 9 PM last night, NWS was still predicting 17 to 27 inches for NYC.



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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 18:44:18 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:56:29 2015.

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I agree. I didn't say the attacks were fair. If he does nothing and we get slammed, he also gets crucified.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by merrick1 on Tue Jan 27 18:58:17 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 27 18:44:18 2015.

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That's why he makes the big bucks.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 27 19:04:44 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 17:48:03 2015.

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"... based on flawed information"

But in storm situations like this, you don't know that the information is flawed until after the fact. There were several computer models that predicted that NYC was going to get buried.
DeB & Andy Boy went with that, thus the NYC shutdown.

Now we have to deal with a"cry wolf" syndorme, inasmuch next time there is a big storm on the horizon (in NYC) and the forecast says take cover, the common-folk react, "yeah right, we remember last time & you blew it". Thats when you'll see people get hurt...big time.

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Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jan 27 19:10:23 2015, in response to Re: What's Your Prediction About Subway Reopening?, posted by merrick1 on Tue Jan 27 18:58:17 2015.

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$179k per annum isn't exactly big bucks :-)

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